New AeroShell Ascender jet turbine oil

[Tom NJ]

Anyone flying the new AeroShell Ascender jet turbine oil? Any feedback on performance?

http://www.shell.com/home/content/aviati..._oils/ascender/

Tom NJ

 

[double vanos]

I can just see the home blending going on now..."Let's see....about a half cup of the AeroShell to 1 five quart bottle of GTX should yield a semisyn with a pour point of about minus 70 degrees Celsius ......

 

[JT1]

Originally Posted By: double vanos
I can just see the home blending going on now..."Let's see....about a half cup of the AeroShell to 1 five quart bottle of GTX should yield a semisyn with a pour point of about minus 70 degrees Celsius ......


That may not be wise, turbine oil is not compatible with any other type of oil. Some turbine oils aren't even compatible with eachother.

I know you were kidding but this is for someone who may not know that.

 

[Cujet]

I won't use it, even if it's worlds better than 2380. Our Gulfstream G550 came with 2380, as did our Eurocopter EC-135 and our Pilatus PC-12.

The fact is that all engines are very likely to make overhaul without difficulty and without oil related problems. However, changing oil types can be a risky affair. Can you imagine my explanation to my boss? Well, I thought it was better....

None of these engines are known for coking problems with regular maintenance.

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: Cujet
Can you imagine my explanation to my boss? Well, I thought it was better....
I would try,,,,I was trying to save you some money!!!

 

[Tom NJ]

Hi Cujet,

I agree there is no need to change oil brands in engines that are not having oil related problems, and there is some risk. These new generation turbine oils (BP ETO 2197, AeroShell Ascender, and perhaps Mobil Jet 254) are designed for engines that are having oil related problems, especially coking. They are also intended to be fleet oils for carriers who prefer to use only one oil in a mixed fleet that includes problem engines.

BP ETO 2380 is a fine oil for 90+% of the aviation turbine engines, and probably the second largest selling product (after MJ II), but it's technology is over 45 years old and it can be troublesome in hotter or coking prone engines. And sometimes there is risk in not upgrading to the latest technology, in the form of lost opportunity such as reduced maintenance or longer TBOs. That said, if your engines are making TBO with absolutely no lubrication related issues, I wouldn't change either.

Tom NJ