I need a PH-8A (3/4-16 thread) equivalent that doesn't have a ADBV. Using this as a PS filter...I currently have a 51515, but haven't hooked this up yet.
Anyone help?
Anyone help?
Need a cross for a PH-8A type filter...
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Don't know of one without an ADBV. ????
I'm not near any of my books, but I think the PH8A is the same as a Motorcraft FL1A and Purolator L/PL30001 filters. If that is correct, all of them have adbvs.
I'm not near any of my books, but I think the PH8A is the same as a Motorcraft FL1A and Purolator L/PL30001 filters. If that is correct, all of them have adbvs.
Why do you need one without the ADBV? The valve isnt going to effect the flow of PS fluid,it only comes into play in keeping any fluid from draining out of the filter when there is no flow/pressure.
The only reason to use one without an ADBV is if you plumbed the filter mount backwards.
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The only reason to use one without an ADBV is if you plumbed the filter mount backwards.
If this was done,it would restrict flow,there would be less area for the fluid to flow and pressure could build up.The fluid would have to go into the smaller tube area of the filter through the holes (in a non E-Core type) and into the outer area,this could possibly cause a problem.
In an E-Core type filter,you would probably have a really good chance of blowing out the material,a big problem.
The only reason to use one without an ADBV is if you plumbed the filter mount backwards.
If this was done,it would restrict flow,there would be less area for the fluid to flow and pressure could build up.The fluid would have to go into the smaller tube area of the filter through the holes (in a non E-Core type) and into the outer area,this could possibly cause a problem.
In an E-Core type filter,you would probably have a really good chance of blowing out the material,a big problem.
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The only reason to use one without an ADBV is if you plumbed the filter mount backwards.
Actually, its to eliminate the extra "restriction"...it is unnecessary in this application.
The only reason to use one without an ADBV is if you plumbed the filter mount backwards.
Actually, its to eliminate the extra "restriction"...it is unnecessary in this application.
Originally Posted By: deeter16317
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The only reason to use one without an ADBV is if you plumbed the filter mount backwards.
Actually, its to eliminate the extra "restriction"...it is unnecessary in this application.
There should be little if any restriction from an ADBV,it only effects the oil/fliud as far as keeping it in the filter when the engine isnt running.
The ADBV is there to keep any oil that is already in the filter from coming out when there is no oil flow.The purpose of the ADBV is to allow oil to get to the engine faster.
Without the ADBV,the oil would drain out of the filter and it would have to refill at each engine start and that would cause extra wear in an engine.
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
The only reason to use one without an ADBV is if you plumbed the filter mount backwards.
Actually, its to eliminate the extra "restriction"...it is unnecessary in this application.
There should be little if any restriction from an ADBV,it only effects the oil/fliud as far as keeping it in the filter when the engine isnt running.
The ADBV is there to keep any oil that is already in the filter from coming out when there is no oil flow.The purpose of the ADBV is to allow oil to get to the engine faster.
Without the ADBV,the oil would drain out of the filter and it would have to refill at each engine start and that would cause extra wear in an engine.
Again, in my application it isn't needed...its for a POWER STEERING SYSTEM, not an engine. The filter is lower than the sump.
I didn't need an education in ADBVs, I know what they do...I asked if there was a filter with a similar base that didn't have the ADBV. But I guess the answer is no.
I didn't need an education in ADBVs, I know what they do...I asked if there was a filter with a similar base that didn't have the ADBV. But I guess the answer is no.
How can there be any restriction? The pump is positive displacement. One Revolution = X number of cc of oil through the filter unless the pump is in relief to eliminate excess pressure like when its cold and stuff.
I don't get the restriction thing.
I don't get the restriction thing.
Originally Posted By: deeter16317
Again, in my application it isn't needed...its for a POWER STEERING SYSTEM, not an engine. The filter is lower than the sump.
I didn't need an education in ADBVs, I know what they do...I asked if there was a filter with a similar base that didn't have the ADBV. But I guess the answer is no.
We dont need an education either,we know that it is a power steering pump.
We just dont understand why you are so determined to get a filter without the ADBV when it is of no real concern when it comes to causing restriction.
The ADBV doesnt operate based on a set pressure to open,it isnt even a somewhat tight seal unless there is oil in the filter to push it back up against the base plate and it may not seal then.
There is no reason to worry about the ADBV.
Again, in my application it isn't needed...its for a POWER STEERING SYSTEM, not an engine. The filter is lower than the sump.
I didn't need an education in ADBVs, I know what they do...I asked if there was a filter with a similar base that didn't have the ADBV. But I guess the answer is no.
We dont need an education either,we know that it is a power steering pump.
We just dont understand why you are so determined to get a filter without the ADBV when it is of no real concern when it comes to causing restriction.
The ADBV doesnt operate based on a set pressure to open,it isnt even a somewhat tight seal unless there is oil in the filter to push it back up against the base plate and it may not seal then.
There is no reason to worry about the ADBV.
As I said, it is a restriction; albeit small, but it is still a restriction...and I wanted to eliminate it since its NOT NEEDED.
Again, since its a difficult question; I will find it on my own.
Again, since its a difficult question; I will find it on my own.
How is it a restriction,it doesnt do anything? It only holds oil in the filter after the engine is off.Where is the restriction?
It takes some force to open that valve, and that is a restriction...if you can't see that, then I can't help you.
Originally Posted By: deeter16317
It takes some force to open that valve, and that is a restriction...if you can't see that, then I can't help you.
The filter media is probably 10~20 times more restrictive than the ADBV.
There are very few oil filters out there without an ADBV. What vehicle is this PS pump/system on?
It takes some force to open that valve, and that is a restriction...if you can't see that, then I can't help you.
The filter media is probably 10~20 times more restrictive than the ADBV.
There are very few oil filters out there without an ADBV. What vehicle is this PS pump/system on?
Originally Posted By: deeter16317
It takes some force to open that valve, and that is a restriction...if you can't see that, then I can't help you.
I dont need any help.
You are talking about a restriction that isnt really there.You are talking of a restriction that most likely is so low that it isnt mentionable.
You also call it a valve,it is a round piece of nitrile or silicone,it really isnt a valve,it just sits there behind the oil inlet holes and keeps oil from comong back out of the filter.
It is not a restriction.
It takes some force to open that valve, and that is a restriction...if you can't see that, then I can't help you.
I dont need any help.
You are talking about a restriction that isnt really there.You are talking of a restriction that most likely is so low that it isnt mentionable.
You also call it a valve,it is a round piece of nitrile or silicone,it really isnt a valve,it just sits there behind the oil inlet holes and keeps oil from comong back out of the filter.
It is not a restriction.
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