NASA readies Artemis II for a manned launch

We circled the moon in 1968.

Doing anything the first time is always harder.

For this to even be news either we have really fallen a long ways or those that say it was all faked are right?
In 1962 JFK set the goal of a manned lunar landing and just seven years later we had one.
I don't see us having that level of technical competence in any sphere these days.
Maybe I've just become an old curmudgeon?
 
Of course we’ve been able to send people to lunar orbit all this time the last 50 years, but we haven’t. Lack of funding, interest, politics has always gotten in the way. The last shuttle launch was in 2011. That means that most kids under the age of 20 likely have no real memory of any major US space programs and virtually no one under the age of 60 has any memory of a mission that went beyond low earth orbit. What’s the motivation for young kids to have any interest in math, science and engineering at a young age when there’s nothing fun or cool about it from a child’s perspective?

The really important impact of the space program is not necessarily the direct effects of sending a few people into space for a few days, but the indirect effects of driving interest in STEM, and the technological advancements that come as a result of the efforts of putting people into space. Cordless power tools, memory foam, camera phones, scratch resistant lenses, infrared thermometers, and lots of other stuff was all a result of, or derived from technology that was created for the space program. When you stop sending people into space, you lose the reason to fund and drive that innovation.
 
My wife and I drove up to the beach just south of the cape. Had a great view! The beach was utterly packed and it took us hours to get off the island. Traffic was insane. I did not spend much time taking pics or video. Just watched. The SRB's were very clear during separation. And I was able to see the white dot of the main engines for a very long time.
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My wife and I drove up to the beach just south of the cape. Had a great view! The beach was utterly packed and it took us hours to get off the island. Traffic was insane. I did not spend much time taking pics or video. Just watched. The SRB's were very clear during separation. And I was able to see the white dot of the main engines for a very long time.
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I’m glad you got a clear view of the SRB separation because the television coverage decided to cut to a view of the crowd when that happened 🤦‍♂️. Also the screen went black for the first second of so of liftoff. I don’t know what high school A/V club they got to run the cameras but geez it was some bad coverage.
 
One thing I seriously wondered about is there is so much more instrumentation measuring every little thing with the resulting warnings and potential shutdowns.

Back in 68 there was a cigar smoking guy in a short sleeve white button down business shirt and a short tie who saw the flashing lights but said “ %#** on it “ and hit the launch button.
 
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I’m glad you got a clear view of the SRB separation because the television coverage decided to cut to a view of the crowd when that happened 🤦‍♂️. Also the screen went black for the first second of so of liftoff. I don’t know what high school A/V club they got to run the cameras but geez it was some bad coverage.
Saw that. On the one I watched the camera was on the nozzles, everything flamed up and the cameraman forgot that maybe he should move the camera upward. By the time he did it was way above the smoke. Duh.
 
For the young crowd in here who did get to watch man walk on the moon 50 (FIFTY) years ago as man you us did. I'll never forget it.
It was a time when the entire nation was together, a common goal, amazing.

Ok, but anyway, think about this. 50 years ago all the space travel including landing on the moon successfully and returning to earth was done with pen and paper. For the most part computers did not exist. The entire design of the crafts, to all the science to get us there and back was calculated by man. A guidance computer equal with processing power equal to about a home computer in the 1970s was used. Previous missions to our outer atmosphere was with manual controls. Also the Apollo lunar moon landing was done party manually.

Anyway, your iPhone that you hold in your hand is 100 to 300 million more times powerful than the 70 lb computer system on the Apollo spacecraft that guided us to the moon and back.

https://apollo11space.com/apollo-guidance-computer-vs-your-smartphone-2025-edition/
 
I assume to collect data and make sure they can get there and back before committing to actually landing on the surface while the rest of the ship circles the moon waiting for them to come back
Well , yeah I get that . But why ? It seems like we have other priorities .
 
Well , yeah I get that . But why ? It seems like we have other priorities .

The human race doesn't advance unless we push boundaries. Like the spending or not, space is a boundary worth pushing. The list of useful developments for every day life that have come from space programs is immense. (Hint, it is way more than just freeze dried food)

And no, Elon littering the sky with internet satellites doesn't count.
 
In 1962 JFK set the goal of a manned lunar landing and just seven years later we had one.
I don't see us having that level of technical competence in any sphere these days.
Maybe I've just become an old curmudgeon?
It is not a matter of technical competence, but a matter of resourcing.

NASA was given 10% of the federal budget to accomplish President Kennedy’s goal.

In today’s federal budget, that would be over $700 billion annually.

NASA is currently given 1/3 of 1% of the federal budget, and the fact that they can do anything at all on that little amount of money, relatively speaking, is amazing.
 
Well , yeah I get that . But why ? It seems like we have other priorities .
I’ll refer you back to my previous post-
Of course we’ve been able to send people to lunar orbit all this time the last 50 years, but we haven’t. Lack of funding, interest, politics has always gotten in the way. The last shuttle launch was in 2011. That means that most kids under the age of 20 likely have no real memory of any major US space programs and virtually no one under the age of 60 has any memory of a mission that went beyond low earth orbit. What’s the motivation for young kids to have any interest in math, science and engineering at a young age when there’s nothing fun or cool about it from a child’s perspective?

The really important impact of the space program is not necessarily the direct effects of sending a few people into space for a few days, but the indirect effects of driving interest in STEM, and the technological advancements that come as a result of the efforts of putting people into space. Cordless power tools, memory foam, camera phones, scratch resistant lenses, infrared thermometers, and lots of other stuff was all a result of, or derived from technology that was created for the space program. When you stop sending people into space, you lose the reason to fund and drive that innovation.
 
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