Any of the above prefered over the other by anyone. For what it is worth, I can get the NAPA Premium for less by about $10. Belden (NAPA)is huge in the wire and cable business, but I cannot find information on their website regarding the construction of their ignition wires--am I just blind?
NAPA or Bosch wires
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The NAPA Golds (Premium) made of Belden wire are EXCELLENT.
Some of the sets in that series use a fiberous/paper like core for superior conductivity.
Boots where always solid. Wire had a nice sheen and was coated, not simply a 'dry jacket'.
I have not used or installed a set in a really long time, but the above is what I can report. Excellent cables. Very expensive if I remember.
As far as Bosch, if they are real Bosch (German made), no doubt they should be good, but these days, Bosch lets people stamp their name on anything.
The wires I am refering to, did have the word 'Belden' all over the wire. I believe they have a line that is not made of Belden wire.
Some of the sets in that series use a fiberous/paper like core for superior conductivity.
Boots where always solid. Wire had a nice sheen and was coated, not simply a 'dry jacket'.
I have not used or installed a set in a really long time, but the above is what I can report. Excellent cables. Very expensive if I remember.
As far as Bosch, if they are real Bosch (German made), no doubt they should be good, but these days, Bosch lets people stamp their name on anything.
The wires I am refering to, did have the word 'Belden' all over the wire. I believe they have a line that is not made of Belden wire.
Bosch are good, as are the premium NAPA.
[I am not a fan of Bosch plugs anymore.]
How about a visual side by side, and let your common sense/instinct guide you?
[I am not a fan of Bosch plugs anymore.]
How about a visual side by side, and let your common sense/instinct guide you?
Bosch doesn't mean - German. I bought a great looking set of Bosch wires and distributor cap combo for my daughter's tercel after looking at NGK and Napa alternatives. The Bosch cap was marked made in Japan. My guess is many of the other Bosch applications are sourced
to where the main sales are. Just like you see lots of air filters actually marked from Asian manufacturing plants.
to where the main sales are. Just like you see lots of air filters actually marked from Asian manufacturing plants.
I have a set of Bosch wires on my truck. I bought them 5 years ago from Pep Boys with a lifetime warranty. One time, I felt like they had been on there long enough, so I brought them in and got new ones. For free. That'll teach them to give me a lifetime warranty. This set has been on there for over 120,000 miles. Ive never used the Napas.
Bosch stuff here are mainly rebranded aftermarket varieties that relabelled under "Bosch" brand. They can be anything from very good to gawd-awful in terms of quality.
I personally hate Bosch's spark plug wires (bought 2 sets for my wifey's 4Runner and the boot broke twice). I would insist in pursuing some decent OE or even NGK blue wires whenever possible.
For Toyotas, you simply can't go wrong with their OE "yazaki" wires....
I personally hate Bosch's spark plug wires (bought 2 sets for my wifey's 4Runner and the boot broke twice). I would insist in pursuing some decent OE or even NGK blue wires whenever possible.
For Toyotas, you simply can't go wrong with their OE "yazaki" wires....
+1 for NGK blues (and V-power plugs too).
Lots of users with no complaints that I've found in searching many forums. Perfect fit and labeled for each cyl.
Lots of users with no complaints that I've found in searching many forums. Perfect fit and labeled for each cyl.
I agree the Belden's are great
, never had a
set fail and if one does liftime warranty..
set fail and if one does liftime warranty..
I went with the NAPA premium wires (Belden Max). They are dark blue in color with gray boots at the plugs, and black at the dist. They were $10 cheaper, and to my hand felt heavier, and a bit more sturdy than the same Bosch set that I looked at. NGK V-power plugs, and NAPA premium cap & rotor made by Echel I think??? $69 out the door.
Good choice on plugs too
That would be one of the easiest decisions I ever made in my life - NAPA
Gotta vote for the NAPA/belden wires also. I put a set on my tercel, and I have to say they are made BETTER than the OEM wires. Nice, thick, flexible rubber that seals the sparkplug holes well, connections to the plugs and coils are VERY solid. A friend got a set for his ford escort and the quality is excellent on that set too. They aren't cheap, but for the quality level they are a bargain.
Echel is another one of NAPA's names like Belden.
Why they chose those names I have no idea.
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Echel is another one of NAPA's names like Belden.
Why they chose those names I have no idea.
Belden and Echlin used to be indpendent companies that supplied parts to NAPA. I don't know if they sre still independent companies or just NAPA trademarks now.
I don't know about Echlin, but Belden is definitly not a NAPA trademark, they are one of the worlds largest wire and cable producers for many things other than ignition wires.
Similar to Bosch, ACDelco is just another brand of auto parts these days, with quality varying significantly from component to component, from application to application. However, the $20 ACDelco wires, $2 AC Delco PCV valve, and $2 NGK copper plugs have worked great in my Saturn.
the funny names NAPA uses are the names of the companies' founders
http://www.napaechlin.com/web_app/CompanyInfo/CompanyInfo.aspx
http://investor.belden.com/history.cfm
http://www.balkamp.com/about/about1.html
I think federal mogul actually makes napa belden ignition wires, but they are still high quality wires
http://www.napaechlin.com/web_app/CompanyInfo/CompanyInfo.aspx
http://investor.belden.com/history.cfm
http://www.balkamp.com/about/about1.html
I think federal mogul actually makes napa belden ignition wires, but they are still high quality wires
The wires did come with Federal Mogul warranty info. The wire itself says Belden all over it, I would guess Belden sells FM the wire and FM cuts and assembles boots to fit applications. The wires were real nice, the boots were significantly heavier than the wires I took off. Only complaint was each wire could have used another inch or two, but thats what they all say
I think they are a good set of wires for the price.
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