My Ford EcoBoost Challenge experience

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I went to the event at Charlotte, NC, today. Thank you to dparm for the heads up on this event. You can see that original post here:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/3049469/

First, the good stuff. I set the best lap for the day (at least at that time), in a Fiesta ST.

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I competed in the shootout against two other drivers and came home with the grand prize, a brand new Fiesta ST. Though it's scaled down... A model of a Fiesta ST. No matter. I told my wife I was going to go win a new car, and that I did. They told us that this is "one of" the faster courses they had set up, so it appears that they're not all laid out equally, unfortunately. So we can't bench race with times.
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These two cars are an absolute riot. I love driving small cars; wish I were in the market for one. The Focus felt heavier (it was) but more planted. The Fiesta was a touch "skaty" around the course, though both had tremendous grip. Predictably, I would prefer the Fiesta on a road course, but prefer the Focus on a daily-driven route. I don't recall which car had it (maybe both), but the steering wheel material was a very soft sponge-like material. I really liked it.

I also drove a C-Max and Fusion Hybrid, but didn't get excellent mpg numbers. I did drive their Escape 2.0T and Fusion 2.0T against the Honda CR-V and the Toyota Camry. I was surprised at a few of my reactions. First, you can't really tell the EcoBoost 4s are turbocharged...there's very little lag, instant throttle response, and no turbo whistle. These are all good in my opinion. Unfortunately, however, when I say that you can't tell that they're turbocharged, you really can't tell they're turbocharged. I expected a lot more peanuts from those engines than they gave. They felt quick to be sure, but I guess I was expecting more. The Camry was the real hotrod; they had a V-6 XLE to try. I was blown away at how taut the Camry's suspension is, and how well it handled. It's a world of difference from the 2011 Camry I used to own. In the end, the Escape and Fusion did have more lateral grip compared with their competition, but they were riding on 19s with performance tires (the Fusion had Eagles), while the Honda and Toyota wore Bridgestone Duelers and Michelin Energy Savers in 17" guise.

I had a blast, and had much fun tossing the Focus and Fiesta around the track. I highly recommend the event if you have not yet signed up for a future date near you. I'm probably much less impressed with the Escape and Fusion than Ford wants me to be, but am absolutely smitten with their two performance hatches.

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Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
I competed in the shootout against two other drivers and came home with the grand prize, a brand new Fiesta ST.


Caused my heart to skip a beat for a brief moment!

Great story. Thanks for sharing.
 
Both the fiesta and focus are very well handeling cars (don,t know if US ones have the same setup as the one sold in europe) i did however like the old focus st with the 5 cyllinder volvo turbo engine better.

But actually. They are many better small fast cars if you ask me. Can you buy renault cars in the us? A renault clio or megane cup model or RS model is just a peace of art. Also a high reving honda civic VTEC is a wonderfull machine. The fords just seems to much of a compromise and to soft for me. :-)

But sure sounds like a nice event :-)
 
Yeah, I'd love to try a Civic SI also. We don't get the Renault here, and I'm not sure if Chevy offers a competitive performance model. Does the Dart have an SRT model yet? That, too, would be fun to try.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
came home with the grand prize, a brand new Fiesta ST


Are you serious? That`s AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!
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Perhaps because the Ford's are both Hot Hatches intended for performance driving styles? Seen many Camrys at the road course?

I love the new hatches from Ford, that Focus ST has real attitude. And the torque vectoring strategies have been adapted very well to the platform. Finally an economical hatchback that could run with my old Neon R/T on a road course!

Great promotion, and I'm certain it was great fun.
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Perhaps because the Ford's are both Hot Hatches intended for performance driving styles? Seen many Camrys at the road course?


He (and I) were talking about the comparison section, where they had an Escape and a Fusion along side a CR-V and a Camry to drive.

The Escape was a Titanium with 235/45R19 ContiProContacts and the Fusion was a Titanium with 235/40R19 ContiProContacts (I think it was the Hybrid that had the Eagle RS-As). This is far more rubber than was on the competition. Granted, Honda doesn't offer anything more than a 17" on their CUV, but a Camry SE with its 225/45R18 Primacy MXM4s would have been a better comparison. But then Ford obviously wanted to put its best foot forward; I don't blame them for that.
 
Originally Posted By: Vikas
I see no picture of your 1st prize!


Here it is. My new baby. I promise to never drive it in the snow or in the rain, and I'll keep the windows up during pollen season... I think I said earlier that it was a new Fiesta ST, but no: it's a new Focus ST. Even better!

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Originally Posted By: shDK
Both the fiesta and focus are very well handeling cars (don,t know if US ones have the same setup as the one sold in europe) i did however like the old focus st with the 5 cyllinder volvo turbo engine better.

But actually. They are many better small fast cars if you ask me. Can you buy Renault cars in the us? A Renault Clio or Megane Cup model or RS model is just a piece of art.


No, we get NO French hot hatches/rally homologation specials here what so ever (including Peugeot's great offerings) .
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We also never got Ford's hot rally spec rides either (i.e.; Escort Cossie/WRC, various Sierra Cossies), in the past, nor the blazing RS500 model Foci.
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I plan to check out the Fiesta ST, but all of my local Ford dealers have such inept service departments that it will have to be extremely good to outweigh having to put up with the incompetence I'm certain I will face...
 
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
No, we get NO French hot hatches/rally homologation specials here what so ever (including Peugeot's great offerings)


Shame, too. One of the cars on my highest list of wishes is the Lancia Delta Integrale. I know it's not French, but it is a rally homologation model...

Just pure awesomeness...

Thinking about this again, I may have to make this my "if I could have any car forever" car in the tread that dparm started, because the rules DO say that as long as maintenance is performed, reliability is a given.

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Originally Posted By: dparm
You guys had a bigger course, it looks like. My fastest time was down in the 29s.


Yes, it was a different course. Looking at the pictures of your event, it looks like you pulled up to the scanner and then the green flag was a hard turn to the left. At the absolute least, our course was a mirror of yours, as we turned right. But yes, I'm sure the course was a bit longer one, and is likely customized to the venue.

How many times did you hit the rev limiter? They told us we probably wouldn't hit it in the Focus and would probably hit it twice in the Fiesta. I hit it once in the Focus and three times in the Fiesta. I just BARELY got it at the checkered flag in the Fiesta, but that's because I kept getting the last turn into the last straight perfect (by luck I'm sure). It was a hard left with a slight juke to the right just after, so I'd slow to set up for the left, ease on the throttle as I was coming through, go full at the apex and the right tire would push over to just BARELY make the green cone on the right side.

I was pushing up white chalk each time. So I used everything up. I'm lucky I didn't hit a cone, which is a 2 second penalty.
 
Originally Posted By: Schmoe
Why is a CR-V in that? They are no where near a sports car, nor designed that way.


Because they also had the Escape so you could do a side-by-side drive. Same for Camry/Fusion. In Chicago, they had a 4-cyl Camry which is of course not a fair match for the EcoBoost Fusion.

My friend's brother works for Ford and I actually told him that it was ridiculous to put those two side by side...so maybe they listened.
 
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