MTF for Acura integra please

[calvinnnnnnnnn]

i am considering draining the pennzoil synchromesh i have in there right now(15k miles) to Amsoil
How is the oil quality of pennzoil synchromesh???

anyone have experience with amsoil mtf and a b-series transmission?

or any other suggestions?

 

[hate2work]

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1733099/

 

[madibob]

I have no experience with the Pennzoil, but I had Amsoil in mine and loved it. I have red line in my Tacoma and that would probably be great too.

 

[J_Myler]

I have Amsoil synchromesh in my Acura CL right now and I really like it in there. It shifts very well in the cold. And I found locally for under 10 dollars a quart. How many miles are on the car? And how many miles do you plan to run it for?

 

[calvinnnnnnnnn]

car has 91,000
plan to have it in there for 30k and then drain it again

the pennzoil was real nice for the first few thousand miles then it felt normal.....

 

[aquariuscsm]

I feel when it comes to gear lubes and transmission fluids,Amsoil makes the best.

 

[Audi Junkie]

GM Syncromesh is widely used to help w/the gears grinding in the 6-sp. I used Redline MTL in my RSX.

 

[calvinnnnnnnnn]

thank you all for your inputs, i will go and purchase 3 quarts of this stuff next week and give a brief review on it.....

 

[mechtech2]

Pennzoil synchromesh is good. But it is a dino oil. And the super great initial feeling can go away after a while.

I have AMsoil MTF [synchromesh] in my car right now, and it is great. It's only been down to 0 deg F around here, but I honestly can't tell any shifting difference when cold than hot. Even though this is a good thing, this is not normal, and you should expect some feel difference with any fluid.
The Amsoil actually seemed to be better , not worse, after 6 months.
So I think you made an upgrade. To be fair, Redline MTL is also very good.

 

[calvinnnnnnnnn]

Finally drained and filled my transmission with Amsoil MTF

When i was draining the pennzoil syncromesh, i found a lot of metal shavings on my magnetic drain plug. It only had 10k miles on it. I even stuck a magnetic extension into the drain hole and a lot more came out. Obviously pennzoil wasnt doing its job because i've drained 10k intervals before and it was not as bad as todays.
this image shows about how much shavings came out after 10k on pennzoil synchromesh

As for the amsoil, when i was warming up the car, the shifter moved effortless through all the gears. There was almost no notchy feeling when passing through the neutral gate to shift into the next gear, however passing the neutral gate felt stiffer, but precise. When the car was still cold, going into 1st gear at 1-2mph was harder than normal, felt like i was pushing it into a wall, i experienced that with pennzoil but not as often.

So far, i like the shifting quality, but believe it could be better. I'll see if it gets better with some more miles on it.

 

[Pablo]

I wouldn't blame the ferrous material on Pennzoil Syncromesh. I would have expected some iron even in a car with 91K. Did you miss any shifts? Do any grinds?

As for the "When the car was still cold, going into 1st gear at 1-2mph was harder than normal, felt like i was pushing it into a wall, i experienced that with pennzoil but not as often." That seems interesting....did you put in more fluid than before? Seems like what would happen....or perhaps the viscosity is higher than the sheared old fluid.

 

[ThirdeYe]

That is a lot of debris on that plug... when I pull the plug on mine, although it's an AT, I never have that much material on it. Even the first time I pulled it when I bought it after it had around 30k on Honda Z-1 it didn't have that much on it.

 

[Mr Nice]

I this the same Pennzoil Syncromesh you can find at AutoZone ?

 

[calvinnnnnnnnn]

^ yup, thats where i got it at.
The car took in 2.4 quarts. I leveled out the car prior to pouring in oil. Poured until oil was dripping from the filler hole.

What component of the transmission contains iron or gets attracted by magnets? More fluid would make going into 1st harder?

i am very careful when shifting, i did not grind at all or miss-shift during that interval. After changing to pennzoil, my driving habits changed. With Pennzoil synchromesh, i down-shift rev match frequently and shifted at redline about six times. Prior to that, i never did that.

 

[mechtech2]

500 or more miles may be needed to get the fluid impregnated in to the metal pores, and get rid of remnants.

On the PS fluid's defense: Maybe it simply was better at flushing/solvent than previous fluids.

 

[mechtech2]

Don't go too much by calvinnnnnnnnn's scary drain plug picture!
That is not going to happen from using PS.
Penn Synch is a dino, and I much prefer a full synthetic in a trans. I have used PS, and the shifting was wonderful, but abated somewhat as I racked up some miles. I dumped it in my search for the Holy Grail of trans fluid.
I have Amsoil MTF [their Syncromesh] in right now, and it is working very well. Plus, the paper specs are wonderful for protection.