Mozilla Firefox 0.9 Web Browser kicks ***
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I have a number of programs I run on my computer-SpySweeper, Spybot, and AdAware. Will I need something different if I go to Foxfire and/or is it still useful, or necessary or possible to keep using them. I think I may take the Foxfire plunge..but I am very cautious with these things.
Also does it make sense to put Foxfire on my non-booting hard drive (WD-80gig) and running it from there. Is that possible?? Does it make any sense??
Also does it make sense to put Foxfire on my non-booting hard drive (WD-80gig) and running it from there. Is that possible?? Does it make any sense??
Spybot 1.3 now works with FireFox. However, I think you'll find these programs uneeded with FireFox. It's not the unsecure program that IE is. In fact IE and outlook are the main reasons that spyware and viruses are so easily spread.
Since using Firefox, Spybot has only found tracking cookies(slows your browser, but doesn't take it over), and not the registry problems and browser hyjacks that are common with IE.
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Since using Firefox, Spybot has only found tracking cookies(slows your browser, but doesn't take it over), and not the registry problems and browser hyjacks that are common with IE.
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Anyone use this???:
http://www.opera.com/
http://www.opera.com/
0.9.2 is now out...
Got 0.9.2!
4 solid days of use with zero issues, including zero of those whoreing, leeching, parasitic spyware/adware "bugs"!
I love it. Thanks.
4 solid days of use with zero issues, including zero of those whoreing, leeching, parasitic spyware/adware "bugs"!
I love it. Thanks.
Safari.
Wu Li, whatis safari? Another browser?
The things I like about Firefox are the lack of spycrap, price, simplicity and for sure the extensions.
I love the tinyness of them...stock quotes, verifiers, password makeruppers, etc...
One extension that I can't seem to get/figure out is a dynamic plug-in like the one required to watch the LIVE timing at www.formula1.com? (As like flash media or some such for nutscrape) What do I need to do for this?
The things I like about Firefox are the lack of spycrap, price, simplicity and for sure the extensions.
I love the tinyness of them...stock quotes, verifiers, password makeruppers, etc...
One extension that I can't seem to get/figure out is a dynamic plug-in like the one required to watch the LIVE timing at www.formula1.com? (As like flash media or some such for nutscrape) What do I need to do for this?
safari is apple's pretty excellent browser for osx. i think it is based on the open-source software konquerer.
apple's safari
i've used it on my dad's machine and it's quite cool. fast for dial up as well. you have to run mac osx to use it though.
apple's safari
i've used it on my dad's machine and it's quite cool. fast for dial up as well. you have to run mac osx to use it though.
Nothing is 100% secure, but it's a lot better than IE.
When there is a problem, the Firefox development community has a fix a lot faster than MicroSoft does for IE.
IE is deeply integrated into the operating system and on top of that is shipped with very poor security settings.
That's why even some Microsoft owened sites are recommending Firefox.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2103152/
Firefox is also reportedly widely used within Microsoft.
Firefox is not nearly as closely tied to the operating system and is shipped in a more secure state.
[ July 11, 2004, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: XS650 ]
No answers yet, but so far it seem to be working fine with my Win 98 and McAfee Security Suite.
Loving it so far. IE makes Anti-Spyware a necessity!! Many of the crippled systems I've seen lately has been from spyware(like Bargain Buddy) and not viruses.
Too bad we are a vendor and the big companies we do business with require us to use IE. I hate that, but gotta comply to do business and use their websites.
I am fearful that someday they we require us to switch our Servers from Novell to Microsoft. That's probalbly when we quit.
[ July 12, 2004, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: haley10 ]
I'm pretty sure if you're using a good firewall and anti-virus program, it doesn't matter what browser you use, as far as compatibility goes. In fact, I think you need a VERY STOUT firewall for IE and it's holes.
I have zero issues (BlackIce and NAV) with Firefox and have turned my stand alone Pop-Up blocker off as it's just not needed anymore!
I have zero issues (BlackIce and NAV) with Firefox and have turned my stand alone Pop-Up blocker off as it's just not needed anymore!
http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2004/071204browser.html?net
For the life of me, I don't know why companies ever went to a single-vendor source (Microsoft) for all their web needs, including Active X scripting. Even the guy in the article points out that his company can't migrate from IE due to the enormous costs.
Ah-ha....that's what Microsoft wanted to begin with! Complete desktop dominance and single-vendor lock-in with no way out. Am I the only network guy who saw this coming years ago?
I didn't care if clients ran IE, but I did care if all the middleware was Microsoft-based.
For the life of me, I don't know why companies ever went to a single-vendor source (Microsoft) for all their web needs, including Active X scripting. Even the guy in the article points out that his company can't migrate from IE due to the enormous costs.
Ah-ha....that's what Microsoft wanted to begin with! Complete desktop dominance and single-vendor lock-in with no way out. Am I the only network guy who saw this coming years ago?
I didn't care if clients ran IE, but I did care if all the middleware was Microsoft-based.
haley, I have a single Win2000 server running NDS/eDir. I can't wait to get rid of it even though it runs fine. Why? Security holes. Servers shouldn't need to be treated like the bass-turd child of the NT lineup: XP Home. In process of a side-job where a guy got nailed with some worm and can't login to his XP Home computer at all. Businesses don't need the same thing with their corporate data.
I'll be installing Netware 6.5 on this server very soon. This version (finally) offers Windows PDC and BDC emulation. "Look ma', no Active Directory", nor any Windows for that matter. In fact, I've dumped all the Novell clients on my network in favor of a domain-only login and use Netware for file access exclusively. Best of both worlds.
I know I'm off topic now, but it just frustrates me to no end that people's data and the security about that data is taken so lightly by Microsoft. They're quite reactive to security, no proactive.
I hope they don't can the Novell LAN you have. They'll enjoy the higher TCO of a Windows network! Server reinstalls, lost data, people who "know Windows" and do stupid stuff. I've seen it happen too many times.
Novell offers great security and the comfort to know that the company's data is safe on the server. Netware 6 and their new Linux offerings are top notch. Forget the old 3.x/4.x networks--those are a thing of the past. Too bad they don't make operating systems for home use. Oh wait, they bought SuSE...
I was even thinking of replacing Explorer.exe with ProgMan.exe (remember that one?) to negate ill effects of running IE on a server until I can replace that Windows 2000 install.
Thanks for listening, I feel better now.
I'll be installing Netware 6.5 on this server very soon. This version (finally) offers Windows PDC and BDC emulation. "Look ma', no Active Directory", nor any Windows for that matter. In fact, I've dumped all the Novell clients on my network in favor of a domain-only login and use Netware for file access exclusively. Best of both worlds.
I know I'm off topic now, but it just frustrates me to no end that people's data and the security about that data is taken so lightly by Microsoft. They're quite reactive to security, no proactive.
I hope they don't can the Novell LAN you have. They'll enjoy the higher TCO of a Windows network! Server reinstalls, lost data, people who "know Windows" and do stupid stuff. I've seen it happen too many times.
Novell offers great security and the comfort to know that the company's data is safe on the server. Netware 6 and their new Linux offerings are top notch. Forget the old 3.x/4.x networks--those are a thing of the past. Too bad they don't make operating systems for home use. Oh wait, they bought SuSE...
I was even thinking of replacing Explorer.exe with ProgMan.exe (remember that one?) to negate ill effects of running IE on a server until I can replace that Windows 2000 install.
Thanks for listening, I feel better now.
Pablo, my point was that a good antivirus program and firewall aren't enough for IE. I have both of these and still get viruses. It is a weak browser, security-wise, and no other program is going to 100% make up for that. As good as it is (no open ports whatsoever), my firewall can't stop rogue ActiveX scripts or other web code that exploits IE's many weaknesses. Believe me, I'm completely on board with you all that Firefox is a better browser. In fact, I downloaded it last night to try on my XP system and am impressed so far. I'll probably install in on my 2000 box later tonight.
My only problem so far is that Thunderbird is a very weak newsgroup reader. I would be much happier with it if it could automatically detect and decode multi-part messages, like Agent. The built in HTML and graphics viewer is very cool, though.
My only problem so far is that Thunderbird is a very weak newsgroup reader. I would be much happier with it if it could automatically detect and decode multi-part messages, like Agent. The built in HTML and graphics viewer is very cool, though.
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