Motul 8100 X-Max 0W-40 - No A40?

[AcceptableBanana1986]

I run a 2nd gen BRZ which sees oil temps up to 250 and now lower with an oil cooler.

This car suffers from oiling issues, so many run a thick 5W-30 with Mobil 1 FS 0w40 which is A40 approved and the official GR Cup car oil.

I want an oil that’s A3/B4 40 grade, carries A40, and Benz 229.5 certs. Does anyone know why this oil no longer carries A40?

When I asked motul they said if you want A40 I should try Motul 8100 X-Cess Gen2 5W-40. However FCP Euro doesn’t stock it so I can’t use their lifetime warranty.

 

[kschachn]

What oiling issues do you have that you think will be corrected with a different winter rating and/or a grade change?

A "thick" 30-grade is going to have a very similar HT/HS to any other oil with Porsche A40 approval.

 

[AcceptableBanana1986]

What oiling issues do you have that you think will be corrected with a different winter rating and/or a grade change?

A "thick" 30-grade is going to have a very similar HT/HS to any other oil with Porsche A40 approval.

I want to stick with 0W-40 was just hoping to use the Motul one to save some dough with the warranty via FCP. But it lacks A40 so I’m hesitant as to why it does. Probably overthinking it though.

 

[kschachn]

Ahh yeah the FCP Euro thing. I guess that if this was my vehicle, I wouldn't be overly concerned about A40 considering it still retains 229.5, 502 00 and Longlife-01. But maybe that's just me.

You may find some useful information in this previous thread:

M

Thread 'MOTUL 8100 X-MAX 0W-40 Lost Porsche A40 in latest API SP version'

May 4, 2023

https://www.motul.com/ca/en/products/8100-x-max-0w-40

https://azupim01.motul.com/media/motulData/DO/base/8100_x-max_0w-40_en_fr_motul_17920_20230501.pdf

the new SP version is very impressive , can not understand why Motul did not pay to certify it for A40 or even the new C40

• marinerbc
• Replies: 64
• Forum: European and Import Motor Oils

• 

 

[chris719]

If you are willing to pay for an oil filter you will not use you can get the X-Cess Gen2 5W-40 from FCP Euro in the bundles. You could also try the 8100 Power 5W-40. The X-Clean 5W-30 (C3) is probably good too.

 

[edyvw]

250 is not big deal.
Go X-Cess 5W40 GEN2 if you want lifetime replacement.

 

[benz_enthusiast]

@AcceptableBanana1986 FCPEuro carries Motul Xcess 5w40: https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/motul-engine-oil-motul-109776#description

 

[tired]

250 is not big deal.
Go X-Cess 5W40 GEN2 if you want lifetime replacement.

Why do you favor this over the 0W-40 X-Max? HTHS is 3.6 for the 0W-40 so you're not overdoing it with excessively high HTHS, and with the 0W winter rating, I imagine you might get better base oils like you do with Mobil 1 ESP 0w30, no?

 

[edyvw]

Why do you favor this over the 0W-40 X-Max? HTHS is 3.6 for the 0W-40 so you're not overdoing it with excessively high HTHS, and with the 0W winter rating, I imagine you might get better base oils like you do with Mobil 1 ESP 0w30, no?

Because X-Cess has higher HTHS from same KV100, indicating better base stocks.

 

[tired]

Because X-Cess has higher HTHS from same KV100, indicating better base stocks.

I knew you’d have a good reason.

So X-Cess 5W-40 really is the best FCP Euro option then.

 

[edyvw]

I knew you’d have a good reason.

So X-Cess 5W-40 really is the best FCP Euro option then.

I did not check their line up, but take into consideration that as far as I know FCP also sells Driven, and new line up is pretty much repackaged HPL now.

 

[tired]

They don’t sell the new HP-X line. They don’t plan to carry it.

What do you think about the Driven DI30/40 and DT30/40?

 

[benz_enthusiast]

They also have Red Line, except 5w40 which they do not seem to carry anymore. But 0w40, 10w40, 5w50 exists

 

[tired]

They also have Red Line, except 5w40 which they do not seem to carry anymore. But 0w40, 10w40, 5w50 exists

They have 5W-30 too but they are often out of stock. I don’t know how good it is for street use.

as far as I know FCP also sells Driven,

What do you think about the Driven DI30/40 and DT30/40?

@edyvw what’s the take on Driven DI and DT oils?

 

[edyvw]

They also have Red Line, except 5w40 which they do not seem to carry anymore. But 0w40, 10w40, 5w50 exists

They have 5W-30 too but they are often out of stock. I don’t know how good it is for street use.





@edyvw what’s the take on Driven DI and DT oils?

Redline 5W30 is the right choice for the street, as its HTHS is 3.7. It has a strong additive pack, or at least it had. But it is acceptable for street use.
I am not familiar with Driven Di and DT that much. I know some folks who use it, but I have not seen enough info. I personally think they are overpriced. Now, the only reason to go is the FCP return policy, but I personally never did that.

 

[Ducati996]

5w30 is not thick oil!