Motorguard versions

AlaskaMike · Aug 3, 2010

I'm getting ready to start work on my coolant bypass filter, but I just noticed that there appear to be different models of Motorguard filter housings. I've seen references to M-30, M-60, and M-100. The ones I find on Ebay appear to be M-30s

Those of you who use these, which model did you buy?

Thanks,
Mike

AlaskaMike · Aug 3, 2010

Hmm... well, I guess I should've kept searching a little longer before posting this. Motorguard's website clearly shows that the M-30 has 1/4" NPT ports on the bottom, and the M-60 has 1/2" NPT ports on the top. They don't show an M-100 though.

I'm guessing people are using the M-30?

Gary Allan · Aug 3, 2010

http://www.motorguard.com/air_2_7.html

It's appears to be the same as the M60

I do believe that most use the M-30. I guess it would save a bushing or two ..but maybe it's more sensible for servicing with the ports on the bottom and removing the top instead of dropping out the bottom half.

Shaman · Aug 11, 2010

I'm with gary, go figure. The M30 will be easier for draining, and the m60 easier for plumbing. I wonder if a simple turn upside down and crack would drain back or not?

Gary Allan · Aug 12, 2010

Hmm (thinking)...I think it would.

AlaskaMike · Aug 16, 2010

I ended up picking up an M-30 for about $80, but that included shipping to Alaska. I just need to get the fittings to thread into the M-30 and I should be all set.

I'm pretty impressed with this one--it seems nice and stout.

Mike

Gary Allan · Aug 18, 2010

Installation pic's!!!

taxmantoo · Aug 25, 2010

M45 is a M30 with two free replacement elements in the box with it.
M100 is a M60 with the replacement elements.

I believe the gold one is the charcoal filter.

http://www.tooltopia.com/search.aspx?find=motorguard

AlaskaMike · Aug 28, 2010

Sorry Gary--I bashed up my knee a couple weeks ago and haven't been able to do the install yet. I have all the parts 'n pieces, just waiting for my knee to heal up to the point where I can work on the truck.

I'll definitely shoot some pics when I get it in there.

Gary Allan · Aug 28, 2010

PaulDH · Nov 7, 2010

Originally Posted By: AlaskaMike
Sorry Gary--I bashed up my knee a couple weeks ago and haven't been able to do the install yet. I have all the parts 'n pieces, just waiting for my knee to heal up to the point where I can work on the truck.

I'll definitely shoot some pics when I get it in there.

I'd like to see some pics also, if possible. I'm considering this mod to my 2001 F250 Super Duty.

AlaskaMike · Nov 8, 2010

I never did get around to do the install. My knee was seriously messed up for a couple months, and now that there's snow on the ground here I decided to wait until next summer.

I'm still not real clear on how I'm going to mount it, but it looks like it's going to have to be off of the passenger side battery tray somehow. I'm not sure how much that helps you though, since your F250 underhood layout is undoubtedly different than my 2000 Dodge 2500.

Are you planning on using a Motorguard for this? The reason I ask is that the Powerstroke requires SCA additives, and a large number of the spin-on bypass filters come charged with it. I would think one of those would be better in your application.

Mike

PaulDH · Nov 8, 2010

Originally Posted By: AlaskaMike
I never did get around to do the install.

Are you planning on using a Motorguard for this? The reason I ask is that the Powerstroke requires SCA additives, and a large number of the spin-on bypass filters come charged with it. I would think one of those would be better in your application.

Mike

I didn't realize some of the spin-on bypass filters came pre-charged with the SCA additive. I was thinking of a Motorguard, which was why I was following your Thread. But I now know I need to educate myself further on this topic relating to SCA precharged bypass filters. If there's not a premium cost for these pre-charged filters, then maybe they're a better option?

AlaskaMike · Nov 9, 2010

I haven't priced them out, but you might talk to some of the big truck supply shops in your area for pricing. My bet is that they're relatively cheap.

Gary Allan · Nov 13, 2010

Originally Posted By: PaulDH
Originally Posted By: AlaskaMike
I never did get around to do the install.

Are you planning on using a Motorguard for this? The reason I ask is that the Powerstroke requires SCA additives, and a large number of the spin-on bypass filters come charged with it. I would think one of those would be better in your application.

Mike

I didn't realize some of the spin-on bypass filters came pre-charged with the SCA additive. I was thinking of a Motorguard, which was why I was following your Thread. But I now know I need to educate myself further on this topic relating to SCA precharged bypass filters. If there's not a premium cost for these pre-charged filters, then maybe they're a better option?

Coolant filters are a (thinking) 11/16-16 thread. They vary greatly in price. One pre-charged is moderately priced from NAPA ..while one not all that much bigger is about $80 retail.

These are not bypass filters that are spec'd for coolant w/additives. They're coolant filters that are plumbed either on a separate circuit or across the heater core bypassing it. That is, they're dedicated coolant filters ..period.

Look at the price variations. Those prices your local NAPA can't even buy them for.

http://www.fleetfilter.com/filters/wix-coolant-filters.html

bullwinkle · Nov 13, 2010

You might try H&S Industries-they are a reseller of surplus filters, etc.-they were able to set me up with a reasonably priced Fleetguard base & Wix precharged coolant filters for my IDI 7.3 F-450, and they were a LOT cheaper than anybody else-they run the Filterbarn website.

bullwinkle · Nov 13, 2010

And if you run SCAs/DCAs-you NEED to run a coolant filter-as the additives are depleted they drop out as silica (sand) and accumulate in your cooling system, filling up the bottom tank of your radiator, eventually taking out your water pump bearings.

AlaskaMike · Jun 5, 2011

Well, I finally got my Motorguard installed and plumbed. It only took me 7 months to get off my lazy rear end and do it.

Installation was a complete no-brainer. The only hiccup I ran into was hose length. I figured 2' of hose for each line would be plenty, but 3' would have allowed me to route them much more neatly. Oh well, not a big deal.

I'll try and post some pics of the install tomorrow.

AlaskaMike · Jun 9, 2011

I took some pics and put them here:

http://www.tibor.org/coolant-bypass/

The mount is kind of cheesy--a chunk of 2x6 secured with one of the hold down bolts on my passenger side battery tray. Works good though, and is nice and solid. I'll probably paint the 2x6 flat black so it doesn't look so goofy.

I need to use a couple more tie wraps and put some split loom on a couple hoses for abrasion protection, but it definitely seems to be working--the housing gets nice and hot. I can't wait to change out the TP roll in a couple months and see how nasty it looks.

TonyT1965 · Jun 11, 2011

First time poster but I'm a regular here(and yes, it's addicting and I'm here daily). Hello to everyone.

A question for Mike, did you beef up the internals on the M30? I know there was some question as to the durability of the plastic components. I've got Frantz filters installed on my Toyota's but wanted to try a Motorguard coolant filter for what could be easier servicing.

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