Motor Trend 2013 Truck of the Year

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Originally Posted By: scurvy
Originally Posted By: 97f150
So although I use my pickup truck at work to haul 3" diaphragm pumps, and the hoses that go with them, and tow the necessary wheel mount air compressor to operate all of that, you may me on my way home and I fall into that catagoey because I'm not towing anything and the bed is empty? Just a thought.


I won't see you on your way home. I make a point not to go into SE LA anymore.
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If your bed is empty and you're not towing anything, what's the point in having a truck? Could you not haul 3" diaphragm pumps, hoses & air compressor in a sedan or hatchback just as easily and get twice the fuel economy? Just a thought.


You know I never tried or seen anyone attempt it in a hatchback, but Ill pass either way.
4 or 5 of these
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A few rolls of these
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And this behind it all

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Nah Im not going to attempt that with anything less then a half ton. Despite the fact that I am wasting fuel cause I ride empty to go home or the living quarters (have no need for any of that stuff to sleep kwim?) I will take the truck over a car anyday. I know where you are coming from as far as having and not really needing a truck, we recently got my wife into her Fusion down from 2 full size trucks, but I need my 1/2 ton at work. I was just pointing out a scenario where the truck is actually used just not in an area where it will be seen loaded down by everyone.
 
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Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
I could probably have gotten all of that in my old Caprice or Custom Cruiser wagons.
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I've fancied buying an old hearse, that would handle it but unfortunately my wife is not a fan. Neither is my employer who funds the vehicle and fuel. I also doubt our customers would get the humor either.
 
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It is RIDICULOUS to sanctimoniously judge others rides without knowing ANY of the facts. I owe no one any "explanations" but I am happy to say this: 95% of the time I am commuting in my truck, but the other 5% MORE than justifies my need for it. Dislike it all you want, scurvy, zero apologies from me!
 
Originally Posted By: 01rangerxl
Yes, because nobody in a car ever drives aggressively, tailgates, swerves, or cuts people off without a signal. Never happens.
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We should all thank God we get to choose our own ride, because otherwise the idjits would have us all driving a tiny econobox.

I meet these people all the time. Their sanctimonious attitudes are annoying, but it reveals a bit how they feel about themselves!
 
They only test new, or significantly-changed models. It was F150 Ecoboost, and that ***** van against the Ram. Yeah -- next year GM will win.
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Originally Posted By: 97f150
I was just pointing out a scenario where the truck is actually used just not in an area where it will be seen loaded down by everyone.


For which the truck is an absolute perfect application.
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My original post, if anyone bothered to read it, was targeted at the people I see driving a garage queen truck to commute to their desk job - for which the aforementioned Ram will work just fine (as would a 1981 Chevy LUV). Besides which, it's usually obvious what trucks actually get used to pull or haul stuff and those what don't.

There are at least eight people like that in my office of 50 or so. They all moan about the price of gasoline, the cost of replacement tires, their short driving range on a tank, the poor visibility, how frequently they need brakes, etc... One of them recently had to actually put something in the bed of his lifted Toyota Tundra, took off the tonneau cover only to find his bed was rusting out. He was 8 days over the deadline for having it replaced under warranty. Had he actually used his truck to haul anything except a bed full of air, he would have seen it months ago.
 
The Dodge is a good looking truck. The interior is far roomier than my Silverado as well. However, past experience will keep me out of the Dodge stable for awhile longer. They can be purchased rather cheaply with incentives however...

I make no apologies for driving a truck. I am an adult spending my own money that I earn myself. I have driven everything from sports cars to luxury cars to SUVs and have always felt most comfortable in a truck. That combined with the practicality of being able to carry five to six people and tow and haul on the weekends, knock out that honey-do list, increased road presence, and enhanced ability to see what is going on around me outweigh the six more miles per gallon average I could get out of a mid-size sedan.

Also, while admittedly subjective, trucks tend to be more durable and mechanically friendly for those of us that like to turn our own wrenches. My wife commutes eighty miles a day round trip in her 2001 F-150 and it has yet to miss a beat. We will be replacing it in the next year or so and she made a great point when I suggested a smaller car. The purchase price of a truck in my state is heavy incentivized by manufactures due to our heavy consumption of pickups. A $35,000 pickup can be had at the right time of the year for around $10,000 off. A $35,000 sedan might have a discount of three or four grand. You can fuel a truck a long time on the difference and drive what you like…
 
Originally Posted By: kkreit01
They only test new, or significantly-changed models. It was F150 Ecoboost, and that ***** van against the Ram. Yeah -- next year GM will win.
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I'm still trying to figure what changed on the F150. The Ecoboost won last year...
 
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: kkreit01
They only test new, or significantly-changed models. It was F150 Ecoboost, and that ***** van against the Ram. Yeah -- next year GM will win.
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I'm still trying to figure what changed on the F150. The Ecoboost won last year...


Nothing. That's why the Ram won.
 
Originally Posted By: apwillard1986

I make no apologies for driving a truck. I am an adult spending my own money that I earn myself.
Also, while admittedly subjective, trucks tend to be more durable and mechanically friendly for those of us that like to turn our own wrenches.


THIS! My wife is a home health OTR/L who absolutely beats the ! out of a vehicle. A truck has definitely proven to be more durable and require less maintenance in our severe duty cycle.

Overall durability, cheap parts, easy repairs, and good resale combine to make my old Silverado look really good despite its 17 mpg appetite.
 
Originally Posted By: 97f150
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: kkreit01
They only test new, or significantly-changed models. It was F150 Ecoboost, and that ***** van against the Ram. Yeah -- next year GM will win.
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I'm still trying to figure what changed on the F150. The Ecoboost won last year...


Nothing. That's why the Ram won.


Then I wonder why the F150 was even in there as they claim to only include those vehicles that are new or substantially changed.
 
It might be a nice truck, but it's still got that ***** front end...I prefer the looks of the new Chevys...
 
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