More on hurricane Helene

Prayers for those devastated by this storm. The Youtube storm damage videos are incredible. I am going to contribute a small amount of $$ to a trustworthy cause (any ideas? - Red Cross?, other?).
 
There are many people leaving Florida, not because of the threat of storms. But because homeowners insurance is all but unaffordable in many areas.

Florida used to be a nice inexpensive place to retire. Not anymore. Building has exploded in the past 25 years, with many areas built up to maximum population.

Today a storm similar in strength to one 25 years ago, will end up causing 4 times the damage from a cost standpoint. It is the main reason why everyone's homeowners insurance has skyrocketed in the last few years.

Look for it to go even higher after they are all forced to pay out, in order to clean up this monumental mess.
 
Are you saying that FEMA used to do a better job?
Well at least they weren't giving FEMA taxpayer government assets to illegal invaders.

"Today, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), through the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), announced more than $77 million in grants to support border and interior communities receiving migrants".

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2023/08/21...-77-million-congressional-funding-communities
 
Yeah, he inherited the house and is considering selling. He’s currently just self-insured after getting dropped a year ago but on the bright side he saved $58,000.

My in-laws live in Naples and pay $50k but aren’t on the water like my buddy. They are considering self insuring as the lot value now far exceeds what the dwelling is worth. They figure they’ll just take their chances and if the house gets destroyed, they can just sell the lot and get a condo. I believe their named storm deductible is something like $250,000 or so on top of the annual premium. They haven’t had but some landscape damage and pool cage damage in the 12 years they’ve owned it.
amazing numbers, however, believe it or not as I was in here, reading and writing these posts unknown to my wife. She’s reading the news on her phone and says look at this.
It was a story about what’s going on with insurance in Saint Petersburg, Florida
Home prices are now getting slashed inventory is going through the roof …

Meanwhile, there is a 70% chance of a tropical storm or more in the gulf developing within seven days. They have no idea what direction it may go at this time
And I got to get out of bed and drink some coffee🙃
 
After Katrina there were many who expected the government to instantly come, and take care of them.
The problem is government is a huge, burdensome entity, bound by the same problems the residents are facing.
No roads out, also means no roads in.
Everyone knows how efficiently the government operates under the best circumstances.
 
Do you get the national news where you live?
The national news here runs right after the local news at dinner time.
The opening story everyday since last week, has been about the terrible devastation, and deaths, in that region.

Yes. Sometimes I'll watch it in the morning at the gym, all the channels are on. There's little hints here and there but overall swamped out.
 
Well at least they weren't giving FEMA taxpayer government assets to illegal invaders.

"Today, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), through the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), announced more than $77 million in grants to support border and interior communities receiving migrants".

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2023/08/21...-77-million-congressional-funding-communities
Many Billions of Taxpayer $$$ income to Israel on a year over year plus Billions to Ukraine and other nations . I would guess we we buy our allies but the money redistributed we are told is a good thing so we believe what we are told.
 
After Katrina there were many who expected the government to instantly come, and take care of them.
The problem is government is a huge, burdensome entity, bound by the same problems the residents are facing.
No roads out, also means no roads in.
Everyone knows how efficiently the government operates under the best circumstances.

Yep. Expect 2 or 3 weeks before any help from local, state or federal government.

West coast Florida might have another hurricane on Wednesday.
 
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Are you saying that FEMA used to do a better job?
After Katrina everyone realizes that FEMA is not coming to save you. Ever. Should be abolished. All they can do is hand out money after the fact, and to newly arrived residents.

I watched a bunch of youtube videos of people hiking into these communities that are devastated. Its local law enforcement and local residents cleaning up and helping each other. The Federal government is nowhere to be found as usual.

As for the national news, its a reporter or two standing in front of Biltmore village saying how bad it is for 60 seconds, when it wasn't even that bad in that particular spot. Yes, under water, but not washed away. Also worthless as usual.

 
After Katrina everyone realizes that FEMA is not coming to save you. Ever. Should be abolished. All they can do is hand out money after the fact, and to newly arrived residents.

I watched a bunch of youtube videos of people hiking into these communities that are devastated. Its local law enforcement and local residents cleaning up and helping each other. The Federal government is nowhere to be found as usual.

I've never dealt with fema before, but one of our engineers does. I was talking to him about the hurricane that hit Puerto Rico(?) he says the reason why fema ends up working so slow is because they have to rely entirely on the local governments for where the aid is needed.
 
I think way too many people rely on other agencies to come and help them at times of need is far too unrealistic.
This is life, in a disaster we are lucky enough to pay for a system that works. You will get help, however to expect help at the drop of a dime is unrealistic. Agencies are not standing by in your community 24 hours a day ready to handle a storm that may come.
They are centralized agencies, ready to mobilize in emergencies but that doesnt mean a day or two. Maybe a week.

I just think we always look to blame others for our situation and the media draws you right in to capture your attention for their ratings.

We get what we pay for and honestly I think FEMA does a pretty good job. I think the media plays into this and rallies people into being upset. This is life, stuff happens, however terrible help will come. In addition to help to rebuild. All willfully paid for by your fellow Americans.
Go ahead and flame me but we love to complain and expect miracles when an area is completely devastated from the Florida Coast, through Georgia, through North Carolina (wiped out) and into Tennessee. I mean, FEMA is on the job what else can one expect.

A family member has been through MANY floods on the Long Island coast for over 30 years. FEMA adjusters always got there in a reasonable amount of time. AS far as rescue work in Asheville. Gosh, until recently there wasnt even a passable road in and out of there but they also have 4 states they are helping out with this because of this storm.
 
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I've never dealt with fema before, but one of our engineers does. I was talking to him about the hurricane that hit Puerto Rico(?) he says the reason why fema ends up working so slow is because they have to rely entirely on the local governments for where the aid is needed.
You are correct. FEMA gave them what they needed and the locals take care of the rest.
 
I've never dealt with fema before, but one of our engineers does. I was talking to him about the hurricane that hit Puerto Rico(?) he says the reason why fema ends up working so slow is because they have to rely entirely on the local governments for where the aid is needed.
So if that is true - why bother funding FEMA at all - if there perpetually ineffective - for whatever reason?
 
Prayers for those devastated by this storm. The Youtube storm damage videos are incredible. I am going to contribute a small amount of $$ to a trustworthy cause (any ideas? - Red Cross?, other?).

NC local organizations:

Samaritan's Purse: https://www.samaritanspurse.org/article/pray-for-those-in-helenes-path/

United Way of NC: https://fundraise.givesmart.com/form/1nSUgw?vid=17vvg9

Operation Airdrop: https://www.operation-airdrop.com/hurricane-helene

NC Community Foundation: https://www.nccommunityfoundation.org/news/hurricane

Manna Foodbank Asheville: https://donate.mannafoodbank.org/[https:// donate.mannafoodbank.org/

Foothills Food Hub-McDowell County: https://www.foothillsfoodhub.org/donate]www.foothillsfoodhub.org/donate

BeLoved Asheville: https://belovedasheville.com/get-involved/

Appalachian Voices: https://appvoices.org/helene-relief/

Charlotte Community Care Collective: https://cltmutualaid.com/resources/disaster-relief

GoFundMe started by App State's Honors Fraternity - donations go directly to locals who have lost their homes to the hurricane: https://gofund.me/b9c11bfe


National organizations:

American Red Cross: https://www.redcross.org/donate/donation.html

Salvation Army: https://give.helpsalvationarmy.org/give/166081?0_src=web-header#!/donation/checkout

Mutual Aid Disaster Relief: https://actionnetwork.org/fundraising/mutual-aid-disaster-relief
 
It's still coming from FEMA. The DHS has been footing the vast majority of migrant flights and care, so maybe it would make sense that agency cover the cost.

At the end of the day the FEMA head and CIC have the gall to say they don't have enough money for destroyed villages while we are shipping migrants into swing states in a massive hurry trying to prioritize naturalization and voter registration for a process that would normally take years.

This is the irony and what is making some people mad, it's money for everyone else except those who need it. Who cares what agency or program is involved. How many billions towards the MIC helping Ukraine and Israel? 16B+ in the past week alone. I understand those are indeed important expenditures but throw your peopel a bone and keep the agency funded and don't screw up the recovery.

Why even spend $650MM on migrants to begin with, what's the hurry?
Blaming migrants for Helene disaster relief makes zero sense. 2 separate issues. This is a thread on Helene.
 
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