Originally Posted By: buster
Originally Posted By: PimTac
My question would be , does VME have similar properties or components to the Premium Blue Restore? That is where my speculation started.
I was wondering that too. I'm skeptical. The PDS doesn't mention anything about cleaning ability and is more focused on LSPI/GDI deposits which other oils like Mobil 1 have addressed 7 years ago. The NOACK volatilty is not that great either for any of the Modern Engin oils. For the price they are charging I'd expect better.
Valvoline needs to do a much better job at marketing these oils otherwise they are extremely overrated.
Yeah, VME talks about valve deposits, the patent does not. The patent talks about piston and ring deposits. The patent mentions HD engines multiple times. The price of VME is too low to have as much ester and perhaps alkylated napthalene that the formulation examples have in the patent. A fully formulated all ester refrigeration, compressor, or turbine oil typically cost at least around $20/qt. The patent examples have PAO to cover the part that is not Group V. PAO is expensive but typically less expensive than Group V oils, and Valvoline Premium Blue Restore is around $18/qt, so that jives with the patent examples prices, in my opinion.
Originally Posted By: PimTac
My question would be , does VME have similar properties or components to the Premium Blue Restore? That is where my speculation started.
I was wondering that too. I'm skeptical. The PDS doesn't mention anything about cleaning ability and is more focused on LSPI/GDI deposits which other oils like Mobil 1 have addressed 7 years ago. The NOACK volatilty is not that great either for any of the Modern Engin oils. For the price they are charging I'd expect better.
Valvoline needs to do a much better job at marketing these oils otherwise they are extremely overrated.
Yeah, VME talks about valve deposits, the patent does not. The patent talks about piston and ring deposits. The patent mentions HD engines multiple times. The price of VME is too low to have as much ester and perhaps alkylated napthalene that the formulation examples have in the patent. A fully formulated all ester refrigeration, compressor, or turbine oil typically cost at least around $20/qt. The patent examples have PAO to cover the part that is not Group V. PAO is expensive but typically less expensive than Group V oils, and Valvoline Premium Blue Restore is around $18/qt, so that jives with the patent examples prices, in my opinion.