More Boeing bad news

[goingplacesanddoingstuff]

The supply chain is long and at points sleight of hand murky.

Scott

With an XRD machine the test would be trivial. Such a machine would be easy to acquire by a company like Boeing.

 

[MolaKule]

So it has been alleged that this parts problem spans decades.

Former Boeing inspector alleges ‘scrap’ parts ended up on assembly lines.

Here is a more in-depth expose on Merle Meyers:

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/ex-e...s-workers-mishandled-parts-to-meet-deadlines/

I find this quote from the above article to be true having experienced it about 2006:

"Meyers, who wears a ring on his right hand commemorating his 30 years at Boeing, said he had begun to notice slipping in the company’s high standards after its 1997 merger with McDonnell Douglas. He said Boeing’s engineering-first mentality had slowly given way to a stronger focus on profits after executives from McDonnell Douglas assumed top jobs at Boeing..."

 

[slo town]

With an XRD machine the test would be trivial. Such a machine would be easy to acquire by a company like Boeing.

Would that work in an environment where people, companies, and countries are intellectually or socially substandard or are being purposely deceptive?

Scott

 

[goingplacesanddoingstuff]

Would that work in an environment where people, companies, and countries are intellectually or socially substandard or are being purposely deceptive?

Scott

Nope, and that’s the point

 

[PWMDMD]

No manufacturer intentionally selects a supplier that they think will cheat and lie to them.

No, but when contracts go to the lowest bidders because that's what's best for the income statement...hey what could go wrong?

 

[Albin]

Its been happening since the late 70's
Someones always running a scam.

Yep, e.g. bad bolts in the B-2 Bomber in the early 80's in Seattle.

 

[JimPghPA]

I think acquiring or re-acquiring Spirit Aerospace is a good first step in that they should be able to improve their QC. Of course, they also need to step up QC in final assembly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...s-for-the-stock/ar-BB1paMZ6?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Recent problems in space indicate otherwise.

 

[edyvw]

Some encouraging news:

https://www.seattletimes.com/busine...uppliers-instead-of-squeezing-them-for-money/

 

[ragtoplvr]

Not necessarily. It would be very cost prohibitive to test every attribute of every lot of all incoming material. And quality control studies have shown that you can't inspect quality into a product, but instead build quality in.

So most leading manufacturers have transitioned away from incoming inspection as a method to control the quality of incoming material, instead partnering closely with their suppliers, and contractually obligating the supplier to build quality into their product, and provide data to show compliance. It used to be that a supplier may have to submit certification data with each shipment. But these days, certification data will be submitted when a product is new, but later, only when the customer requests data.

No manufacturer intentionally selects a supplier that they think will cheat and lie to them.

Cough cough China

 

[JimPghPA]

This has been happening for two decades or more. Originally it was EOL titanium fan blades that were pulled from service at an offshore maintenance facility, then making their way to China to be spiffed up to look brand new, and eventually being distributed to approved new parts inventory channels.

Scott

EOL parts should have a required proof of destruction system with documentation. Do they?