Mopar to replace the current v-8 with a inline 6 twin turbo? say it aint so...

For the elec option to be liable they sure have not made any progress in my area on installing charging stations .....I saw some around Phoenix last time I was home but not enough for 4 million people. In Texas i have seen zero in Houston .....a few in Austin but its a big "eco" county unlike most of the state. I see new Shell and Exxon stations but all gas....
They would have to start building last year to make any progress to all elec cars .....I just dont see it....not in my life anyway....maybe 20 years away. Plus they still have zero cars that can make 400 miles and charge in 5-10 mins.....
i drove a Tesla in Austin.....yeah its quick and the lack of engine noise is strange.....with the AC going and my fat ass and my friend maybe 200 miles on a charge is it....not enough.....plus it was like 50k .....I will pass.
 
Probably been said, but I doubt this 3.0L twin turbo will achieve better fuel economy in a Ram 1500 or Wrangler application than the pentastar does. Having owned both a pentastar and a hemi in Ram 1500's w/ 8spds, my pentastar did about 10% better in terms of fuel economy for me.

Then again, ~20mpg out of a RWD based, full framed truck w/ 400hp is not terrible, assuming that's what the new Hurricane can achieve.
 
Nick1994 said:
I wouldn't buy a truck from any of the big 3. Not a fan of the Hemi or the LS engines, and Ford seems to have timing chain issues still.

I think if I had to get a truck it would have to be a Tundra, but they're too pricy for me.
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Then you can take the cab off and replace the turbo's... ☺
 
The Critic said:
At full MSRP, I think any of the 1/2 tons are a fairly poor value, not just the Tundra. I just don't see them being worth $45-$60K for the limited utility they deliver. If I was going to spend that kind of money, I would probably go 3/4.

Cabin felt tight and the doors sound about the same as my Prius when you close them. The powertrain felt about the same as a 2.7 ecoboost, nothing special. And here's the best part: payload was only 1400 lbs.
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For how Toyota is marketing the Tundra as a “luxury” truck suited for the Lexus crowd who doesn’t want to trash their cars on a Costco or Home Depot run, I can’t say I’m surprised - many Tundras are pavement princesses(so are the Detroit 3 but I do see more F-Series, Silverados and Rams towing). They do this with their “base”/CE/LE models to steer you towards the nicer XLE/Limited models, in the Tundra’s case, the SR5 is the volume seller but Toyota wants you to buy a Limited with the TRD Off Road package, if not a 1794 Edition or Capstone that is equal to a Lexus, trim-wise. To their credit, they will hold up better mechanically. But the Toyota Tax is real, like the Apple Tax.

Let’s face, many who don’t need a full-size truck buy one as a lifestyle statement, and the Tacoma/Ranger/Colorado/Canyon have creeped from their humble small truck roots(the Tacoma was initially an Americanized Hilux but now it’s own model) to being 3/4ths of the full-size class. The Ridgeline hasn’t been the sales success Honda was hoping for. Ford and Hyundai has responded with the Maverick and Santa Cruz - car based mini trucks like the old VW Caddy of the 1980s that was essentially a Rabbit/Golf with a bed.
 
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OP: I’m also an old school Mopar guy. Heck, I’m currently in the process of rebuilding the 230 flathead 6 from my ‘57 Belvedere. I also own a slant 6 car, so I’m kinda excited about a new inline 6. I’ve always found turbos interesting...might even try to put one on the slant 6 some day, who knows? Anyway, I’m looking forward to driving a truck with the new turbo inline 6 when they come out.
 
JTK said:
Probably been said, but I doubt this 3.0L twin turbo will achieve better fuel economy in a Ram 1500 or Wrangler application than the pentastar does. Having owned both a pentastar and a hemi in Ram 1500's w/ 8spds, my pentastar did about 10% better in terms of fuel economy for me.

Then again, ~20mpg out of a RWD based, full framed truck w/ 400hp is not terrible, assuming that's what the new Hurricane can achieve.
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It will on the EPA test cycle because in some cases it'll run like a NA I6.
 
BMWTurboDzl said:
It will on the EPA test cycle because in some cases it'll run like a NA I6.
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Good point, plus it's less displacement than the current pentastar V6 in Ram/Jeep applications.

It will be interesting to see what transmission they'll mate to the Hurricane, or if they'll stick with the ZF8. They're going on 10yrs with the ZF8.
 
JTK said:
Good point, plus it's less displacement than the current pentastar V6 in Ram/Jeep applications.

It will be interesting to see what transmission they'll mate to the Hurricane, or if they'll stick with the ZF8. They're going on 10yrs with the ZF8.
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They can continue to use the glorious ZF8, just please for the love of god do not let them design their own transmission again. PLEASE!
 
JTK said:
Good point, plus it's less displacement than the current pentastar V6 in Ram/Jeep applications.

It will be interesting to see what transmission they'll mate to the Hurricane, or if they'll stick with the ZF8. They're going on 10yrs with the ZF8.
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Given that there's the hybrid version of the ZF8 now (BMW is using it) and that's the direction Stellantis is headed, I expect we'll see them continue to use that gearbox.
 
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