Mopar Oil Filters from the Mopar store

[GW.]

I find it bizarre to worry about using an aftermarket oil filter yet still do your own oil changes. Both are covered under the same paragraph in the MMWA. Flawed logic. Why feel one is protected but not the other?

 

[Hootbro]

I find it bizarre to worry about using an aftermarket oil filter yet still do your own oil changes. Both are covered under the same paragraph in the MMWA. Flawed logic. Why feel one is protected but not the other?

In theory, use of the OEM filter if bought through approved sellers give a leg up should an issue arise while under warranty.

• Failure of the OEM filter and any damage rising from it would normally be taken care of in house by the dealership repair network while retaining remaining factory warranty after repairs.

• Failure of a aftermarket oil filter and any damage arising from it, the vehicle owner is then pushed backed onto oil filter maker and their claim process to provide warranty for the damage caused and that then is taking the vehicle out of the dealership network and use of their repair parts and onto a third party independent repair network using whatever parts the oil filter maker deems they want to use. Way more involved in making someone whole with this process and then remaining factory OEM warranty is pretty much shot.

 

[GW.]

In theory, use of the OEM filter if bought through approved sellers give a leg up should an issue arise while under warranty.

• Failure of the OEM filter and any damage rising from it would normally be taken care of in house by the dealership repair network while retaining remaining factory warranty after repairs.

• Failure of a aftermarket oil filter and any damage arising from it, the vehicle owner is then pushed backed onto oil filter maker and their claim process to provide warranty for the damage caused and that then is taking the vehicle out of the dealership network and use of their repair parts and onto a third party independent repair network using whatever parts the oil filter maker deems they want to use. Way more involved in making someone whole with this process and then remaining factory OEM warranty is pretty much shot.

Yes with an actual filter problem I agree. We have seen Fram replace engines before.

I was thinking if a dishonest dealer was going to pull the aftermarket filter card they could also pull the doing your own oil change card.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I was thinking if a dishonest dealer was going to pull the aftermarket filter card they could also pull the doing your own oil change card.

Exactly, that could be the 2nd step of warranty denial by trying to blame the DYI guy of installing the part wrong.

 

[kschachn]

And of course in all of this no one has personally indicated that this has ever happened to them. It has been and remains a phantom fear.

 

[Hootbro]

And of course in all of this no one has personally indicated that this has ever happened to them. It has been and remains a phantom fear.

Like getting a STD transfer from sitting on a public toilet seat, pretty much zero but not an absolute zero.

If anything this board has taught me, it is filled with people that will argue over decimal points of minutia data that means nothing in the grand scheme of things to extract being mentally "right" in their thought process vs. the real world practical reality.

 

[4wd]

I know it’s not for everyone. I would never tell someone to do something they are not comfortable with. In those cases I recommend doing all services at your selling dealer on time and do not deny any upsells. It is unfortunate 99% of people believe every word the dealer tells them.

A few months ago I called the FTC to see if Jeep had applied for a waiver on the ZF transmission fluid. They did not and I switched all my driveline fluids to Amsoil. They were very helpful. You can also file complaints online.

Yep, I’m not going to get stepped on. I have paid lawyers as much as the disagreement was worth - bcs I figure the next person can’t/won’t and dishonest people need to be humbled at times …
Anyway, I personally don’t want M+H on my Cub Cadet …

 

[RBT]

Yes it’s a very different mindset when just keeping a vehicle to 100k or less vs keeping a vehicle to well over 200/300k.

I have kept three vehicles to 300k:
97 Dodge 1500 (297k)
85 BMW 535i (306k)
89 BMW 525i (292k)

My mindset is realistic and informed. During the initial period you paid for a warranty. Take that advantage because you paid for it. After that, do what you want. And if you think the original parts stink, the solution is to avoid the brand because you cannot reengineer the vehicle in your driveway on your time. It’s a fools errand.

 

[kschachn]

I have kept three vehicles to 300k:
97 Dodge 1500 (297k)
85 BMW 535i (306k)
89 BMW 525i (292k)

My mindset is realistic and informed. During the initial period you paid for a warranty. Take that advantage because you paid for it. After that, do what you want. And if you think the original parts stink, the solution is to avoid the brand because you cannot reengineer the vehicle in your driveway on your time. It’s a fools errand.

Agreed, I’ve never done anything that would violate my warranty. I have done things to help prevent warranty claims, however.

 

[ZeeOSix]

And if you think the original parts stink, the solution is to avoid the brand because you cannot reengineer the vehicle in your driveway on your time. It’s a fools errand.

Avoid the brand? ... like the make of the vehicle? If so, that would be pretty extreme as every car brand has some issues - yeah, even Hondas and Toyotas and any other brands that some people think are superior. There are a lot of aftermarket parts that are better than OEM parts, often made to improve an OEM part weakness or issue.

 

[RBT]

Avoid the brand? ... like the make of the vehicle? If so, that would be pretty extreme as every car brand has some issues - yeah, even Hondas and Toyotas and any other brands that some people think are superior. There are a lot of aftermarket parts that are better than OEM parts, often made to improve an OEM part weakness or issue.

It’s not extreme at all, it’s sound judgment. If someone is too stupid or incompetent to do basic tasks correctly, like design a basic part for the lubrication system, your better route is to avoid them professionally. This is different from someone who makes a less material error - that’s called being human/. Nevertheless, we are going in circles here. Have a good evening and a happy 4th.

 

[ZeeOSix]

It is extreme to avoid an automaker brand because some of the parts might not be that great ... they all have some kind of issue going on, every one of them.

Going in circles = thread Happy 4th to all.