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Moblie 1 oils not recommeded for Dodge?
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Originally Posted By: alarmguy
Mobile is no longer a higher standard like it was decades ago, somehow the marketing convinces people otherwise.
Looks nice to me!
Mobile is no longer a higher standard like it was decades ago, somehow the marketing convinces people otherwise.
Looks nice to me!
Originally Posted By: OilUzer
I bought PPPP 5Wx30 in November time frame for ~$21.xx for 5 qt. jug. Then in April i went to get PPPP 10Wx30 and all PPPP were ~$29.xx per 5 qt.
I'm waiting for PPPPPP, personally. My engine likes extra P in the crankcase.
I bought PPPP 5Wx30 in November time frame for ~$21.xx for 5 qt. jug. Then in April i went to get PPPP 10Wx30 and all PPPP were ~$29.xx per 5 qt.
I'm waiting for PPPPPP, personally. My engine likes extra P in the crankcase.
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Imagine the wailing if we posted about Pennzboil Platinum?
Pennzboil Platnblum.
Forget that!
I only use Volvoline!
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Imagine the wailing if we posted about Pennzboil Platinum?
Pennzboil Platnblum.
Forget that!
I only use Volvoline!
Originally Posted By: MCompact
Mobile Alabama?
It's a nice place, I used to travel there for business. The George Wallace tunnel is pretty cool.
Mobile Alabama?
It's a nice place, I used to travel there for business. The George Wallace tunnel is pretty cool.
Originally Posted By: Brons2
I'm waiting for PPPPPP, personally. My engine likes extra P in the crankcase.
it may
Old marketing:
Pennzoil Platinum PurePlus (PPPP)
New marketing inline with Shell:
Pennzoil Platinum PurePlus ProtectionPlus (PPPPPP)
Only $1 per P per qt.
I'm waiting for PPPPPP, personally. My engine likes extra P in the crankcase.
it may
Old marketing:
Pennzoil Platinum PurePlus (PPPP)
New marketing inline with Shell:
Pennzoil Platinum PurePlus ProtectionPlus (PPPPPP)
Only $1 per P per qt.
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Originally Posted By: alarmguy
Mobile is no longer a higher standard like it was decades ago, somehow the marketing convinces people otherwise.
Here we go again
Mobile is no longer a higher standard like it was decades ago, somehow the marketing convinces people otherwise.
Here we go again
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Imagine the wailing if we posted about Pennzboil Platinum?
Pennzboil Platnblum.
Forget that!
I only use Volvoline!
I should get that for her Volvo.
Volvoline SinPower
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Imagine the wailing if we posted about Pennzboil Platinum?
Pennzboil Platnblum.
Forget that!
I only use Volvoline!
I should get that for her Volvo.
Volvoline SinPower
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Imagine the wailing if we posted about Pennzboil Platinum?
Pennzboil Platnblum.
Forget that!
I only use Volvoline!
I should get that for her Volvo.
Volvoline SinPower
What, no Castor Oil ?
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: dlundblad
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Imagine the wailing if we posted about Pennzboil Platinum?
Pennzboil Platnblum.
Forget that!
I only use Volvoline!
I should get that for her Volvo.
Volvoline SinPower
What, no Castor Oil ?
How about Bobil 1, a short for Bob Oil (Guy) 1? We can also have Bobil Conventional, Bobil Super, Bobil 2, Bobil 3, etc.
Well, it's not Mobil 1 either. It's Mobil [1]™.
Mobil blue: #12719D
Mobil red: #D50026
Mobil 1 identity guidelines
Don't waste your money on Mobil Super Synthetic. With its combined NOACK*CCS rating (what I call "BOQI") of 32, it's one of the five lowest-rated synthetic oils out there, only ahead of Lucas Synthetic, Carquest Synthetic, Proline Synthetic, and Kum & Go Synthetic (all have BOQI = 31). Even the Mobil Super Conventional has BOQI = 30. Pennzoil Platinum PurePlus and Quaker State Ultimate Durability on the other hand have BOQI = 54 and 58, respectively.
Let's talk about Chrysler MS-6395 now.
Going through the specs, it seems almost identical to API SN RC/ILSAC GF-5, with very few minor differences. Firstly, unlike GM dexos, it specs conventional oil or better (NOACK 15% or lower). The only obvious difference I could catch was that it has stringer limits on elastomer compatibility. However, is this insignificant or is Chrysler really worried about leaky seals that may be caused by too much seal swellers or oils that cause too much seal shrinkage? Another thing I noticed is that they don't like production variations from the published data sheets.
If you are in doubt, you can definitely not go wrong with the top-of the-line Pennzoil Platinum or Quaker State Ultimate Durability, which are both MS-6395 and feature GTL and/or GTL-like base oils, with great combined NOACK*CCS ratings.
Analyze the spec for yourself.
Chrysler MS-6395 full specification:
Well, it's not Mobil 1 either. It's Mobil [1]™.
Mobil blue: #12719D
Mobil red: #D50026
Mobil 1 identity guidelines
Don't waste your money on Mobil Super Synthetic. With its combined NOACK*CCS rating (what I call "BOQI") of 32, it's one of the five lowest-rated synthetic oils out there, only ahead of Lucas Synthetic, Carquest Synthetic, Proline Synthetic, and Kum & Go Synthetic (all have BOQI = 31). Even the Mobil Super Conventional has BOQI = 30. Pennzoil Platinum PurePlus and Quaker State Ultimate Durability on the other hand have BOQI = 54 and 58, respectively.
Let's talk about Chrysler MS-6395 now.
Going through the specs, it seems almost identical to API SN RC/ILSAC GF-5, with very few minor differences. Firstly, unlike GM dexos, it specs conventional oil or better (NOACK 15% or lower). The only obvious difference I could catch was that it has stringer limits on elastomer compatibility. However, is this insignificant or is Chrysler really worried about leaky seals that may be caused by too much seal swellers or oils that cause too much seal shrinkage? Another thing I noticed is that they don't like production variations from the published data sheets.
If you are in doubt, you can definitely not go wrong with the top-of the-line Pennzoil Platinum or Quaker State Ultimate Durability, which are both MS-6395 and feature GTL and/or GTL-like base oils, with great combined NOACK*CCS ratings.
Analyze the spec for yourself.
Chrysler MS-6395 full specification:
Illiterates are taking over!
Originally Posted By: CR94
Illiterates are taking over!
OP made just a simple typo in the title but not in the body. It was probably caused by the autocorrect.
Illiterates are taking over!
OP made just a simple typo in the title but not in the body. It was probably caused by the autocorrect.
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
OP made just a simple typo in the title but not in the body. It was probably caused by the autocorrect.
If "Moblie" is the correction then the corrector needs correcting.
OP made just a simple typo in the title but not in the body. It was probably caused by the autocorrect.
If "Moblie" is the correction then the corrector needs correcting.
I think the Las Vegas taxi fleet test keeps most manufacturers out of the picture. Why bother?
Thanks for posting Gokhan. I was always wondering what was so special about the MS-6395 spec.
Thanks for posting Gokhan. I was always wondering what was so special about the MS-6395 spec.
Originally Posted By: ka9mnx
I think the Las Vegas taxi fleet test keeps most manufacturers out of the picture. Why bother?
Thanks for posting Gokhan. I was always wondering what was so special about the MS-6395 spec.
Ah, I missed the "Chrysler Las Vegas fleet test," thanks!
Yes, nothing beats driving in the 100-plus-degree Vegas heat. Add the desert dust storms on it as well. It's for two summers and a winter. It's very difficult to do, as you said.
Amsoil has a Las Vegas taxicab field study posted online.
Now, someone needs to find the test details for the Chrysler Las Vegas fleet test.
I think the Las Vegas taxi fleet test keeps most manufacturers out of the picture. Why bother?
Thanks for posting Gokhan. I was always wondering what was so special about the MS-6395 spec.
Ah, I missed the "Chrysler Las Vegas fleet test," thanks!
Yes, nothing beats driving in the 100-plus-degree Vegas heat. Add the desert dust storms on it as well. It's for two summers and a winter. It's very difficult to do, as you said.
Amsoil has a Las Vegas taxicab field study posted online.
Now, someone needs to find the test details for the Chrysler Las Vegas fleet test.
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Originally Posted By: Gokhan
Originally Posted By: ka9mnx
I think the Las Vegas taxi fleet test keeps most manufacturers out of the picture. Why bother?
Thanks for posting Gokhan. I was always wondering what was so special about the MS-6395 spec.
Ah, I missed the "Chrysler Las Vegas fleet test," thanks!
Yes, nothing beats driving in the 100-plus-degree Vegas heat. Add the desert dust storms on it as well. It's for two summers and a winter. It's very difficult to do as you said.
Amsoil has a Las Vegas taxicab field study posted online.
Now, someone needs to find the test details for the Chrysler Las Vegas fleet test.
Mobil was doing those LV taxi gigs before the merger and still does … it’s a matter of how they use the test
(Internal or externally) … no show stoppers there …
Originally Posted By: ka9mnx
I think the Las Vegas taxi fleet test keeps most manufacturers out of the picture. Why bother?
Thanks for posting Gokhan. I was always wondering what was so special about the MS-6395 spec.
Ah, I missed the "Chrysler Las Vegas fleet test," thanks!
Yes, nothing beats driving in the 100-plus-degree Vegas heat. Add the desert dust storms on it as well. It's for two summers and a winter. It's very difficult to do as you said.
Amsoil has a Las Vegas taxicab field study posted online.
Now, someone needs to find the test details for the Chrysler Las Vegas fleet test.
Mobil was doing those LV taxi gigs before the merger and still does … it’s a matter of how they use the test
(Internal or externally) … no show stoppers there …
Chevron Havoline ran the same tests as well in Vegas.
https://www.havoline.com/content/chevron-havoline/en-US/why-havoline/havoline-las-vegas.html
https://www.havoline.com/content/chevron-havoline/en-US/why-havoline/havoline-las-vegas.html
Originally Posted By: Gokhan
How about Bobil 1, a short for Bob Oil (Guy) 1? We can also have Bobil Conventional, Bobil Super, Bobil 2, Bobil 3, etc.
Well, it's not Mobil 1 either. It's Mobil [1]™.
Mobil blue: #12719D
Mobil red: #D50026
Mobil 1 identity guidelines
Don't waste your money on Mobil Super Synthetic. With its combined NOACK*CCS rating (what I call "BOQI") of 32, it's one of the five lowest-rated synthetic oils out there, only ahead of Lucas Synthetic, Carquest Synthetic, Proline Synthetic, and Kum & Go Synthetic (all have BOQI = 31). Even the Mobil Super Conventional has BOQI = 30. Pennzoil Platinum PurePlus and Quaker State Ultimate Durability on the other hand have BOQI = 54 and 58, respectively.
We've already established that your BOQI has about as much relevance to engine oil as the shininess of the foil seal.
Your BOQI doesn't even give the same BOQI to 3 Mobil spectrasyn basestocks, or six oils made out of them exclusively (i.e. 100% synthetic basestocks).
AND, as YOU pointed out in your own thread, your own BOQI can't possible go to "32", "31", "54", nor "58".
How about Bobil 1, a short for Bob Oil (Guy) 1? We can also have Bobil Conventional, Bobil Super, Bobil 2, Bobil 3, etc.
Well, it's not Mobil 1 either. It's Mobil [1]™.
Mobil blue: #12719D
Mobil red: #D50026
Mobil 1 identity guidelines
Don't waste your money on Mobil Super Synthetic. With its combined NOACK*CCS rating (what I call "BOQI") of 32, it's one of the five lowest-rated synthetic oils out there, only ahead of Lucas Synthetic, Carquest Synthetic, Proline Synthetic, and Kum & Go Synthetic (all have BOQI = 31). Even the Mobil Super Conventional has BOQI = 30. Pennzoil Platinum PurePlus and Quaker State Ultimate Durability on the other hand have BOQI = 54 and 58, respectively.
We've already established that your BOQI has about as much relevance to engine oil as the shininess of the foil seal.
Your BOQI doesn't even give the same BOQI to 3 Mobil spectrasyn basestocks, or six oils made out of them exclusively (i.e. 100% synthetic basestocks).
AND, as YOU pointed out in your own thread, your own BOQI can't possible go to "32", "31", "54", nor "58".
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