Mobil1 Filter Design Change

[TrainingPolicy]

I went into AAP and pick up an OC and I was getting a Mobil1 oil filter and I noticed there were two different boxes for the same filter. I opened them up and noticed that the design of the two was different. Both of them were M1 110A, but the base plate was different and the body on one of them was slightly taller and slightly fatter. I asked the 'parts professional' if this was an updated can, and of course, I got an answer back of 'they all are the same'. I even took him other there and showed him the difference, to which he shrugged. So, BITOGER's have yall noticed this?

 

[Passport1]

A long time ago in a far away land, parts counter people tended to be wizened old mechanics. They had become too seasoned to continue working on cars so they generously shared their invaluable experience with lesser mortals about parts, pieces and the Zen of auto mechanics.

Imagine Obi-Wan Kenobi tutoring Luke Skywalker but there is no sequel.

 

[CKN]

A long time ago in a far away land, parts counter people tended to be wizened old mechanics. They had become too seasoned to continue working on cars so they generously shared their invaluable experience with lesser mortals about parts, pieces and the Zen of auto mechanics.

Imagine Obi-Wan Kenobi tutoring Luke Skywalker but there is no sequel.

The Four key words..............

 

[DuckRyder]

It has been discussed:

Vendor change, and not one for the better... IMO

 

[ZeeOSix]

In the normal consumer world, manufactures can make design changes and not update the part number - that happens most of the time. There are no real configuration control rules in the consumer world. Sometimes they do change the part number, but most of the time they don't because they don't have to, and it saves them a lot of work that way.

 

[92saturnsl2]

Who makes them now? Did they go China/overseas like many of the others?

 

[newtoncd8]

Did they look like this:

Mobil 1 M1-113A different versions

I saw some other posts about the same model of Mobil 1 oil filter having different manufacturers and different designs. I got one from Amazon that seems like it's been sitting a box for quite some time and also has a strong odor, but that may just be my perception as the same model at O'Reilly...

bobistheoilguy.com

 

[blufeb95]

Who makes them now? Did they go China/overseas like many of the others?

They're made under Mann-Hummel in Puralator's factories, there have been at least a few reports of cut ADBV because Burralator doesn't de-burr the tapping plates.

 

[Ignatius]

Two Mobil 1 M1-110A filters. Different sizes

Hello, all, I bought the short one in February 2020 and the tall one in July 2020, both from Walmart. The short one is 3 5/16" and 211 grams and the tall one is 3 1/2" tall and 261 grams. Both are made in the USA, and the only difference in the packaging is the taller one specifies a steel...

bobistheoilguy.com

 

[TrainingPolicy]

 

[TrainingPolicy]

Did they look like this:

Mobil 1 M1-113A different versions

I saw some other posts about the same model of Mobil 1 oil filter having different manufacturers and different designs. I got one from Amazon that seems like it's been sitting a box for quite some time and also has a strong odor, but that may just be my perception as the same model at O'Reilly...

bobistheoilguy.com

The other ones on the shelf looked like those, but the one I choose had different holes for the oil flow and had ALOT more of them.

 

[TrainingPolicy]

Two Mobil 1 M1-110A filters. Different sizes

Hello, all, I bought the short one in February 2020 and the tall one in July 2020, both from Walmart. The short one is 3 5/16" and 211 grams and the tall one is 3 1/2" tall and 261 grams. Both are made in the USA, and the only difference in the packaging is the taller one specifies a steel...

bobistheoilguy.com

Yes! These are the two different ones. I figured someone else had run across this too!

 

[PimTac]

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Third photo, that hole at 1100. Is that a burr?

 

[TrainingPolicy]

Third photo, that hole at 1100. Is that a burr?

I just took a look at it in person and I do not see a burr.

 

[blufeb95]

Third photo, that hole at 1100. Is that a burr?

The burrs wouldn't really be visible from the outside they're more something you'd see/feel on the reverse side of the tapping plate if you cut the filter apart.

 

[PimTac]

I just took a look at it in person and I do not see a burr.

Sometimes digital pictures show a shadow or a artifact that looks real.

 

[Bighorn2500]

Who makes them now? Did they go China/overseas like many of the others?

Yep, I emailed them about ten days ago with question about beta ratio and the reply came from Mann Hummel say they would not disclose that info. Interesting considering Wix who is also owned by them provides the same with info. Go figure?

 

[arakele]

M+H will reply for their own brands (Wix, Purolator), but not for brands they don't own (Hyundai, Carquest, Mobil 1). I am surprised to see Mobil 1 move away from Champion Labs though.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Yep, I emailed them about ten days ago with question about beta ratio and the reply came from Mann Hummel say they would not disclose that info. Interesting considering Wix who is also owned by them provides the same with info. Go figure?

It's pretty hilarious when a filter manufacturer claims their filter's efficiency is "proprietary" or "secret" and can't tell the consumer what it is.

 

[autoapprentice]

Looks like a FRAM baseplate.