Mobil 5W20, 2002 Honda Civic , 3,423 miles on oil
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i would try another oil. not impressed.
i have been using GTX 5W-20 with good wear #'s and other like the penzoil platinum that looks very impressive.
i have been using GTX 5W-20 with good wear #'s and other like the penzoil platinum that looks very impressive.
Originally Posted By: BigBadf350
i would try another oil. not impressed.
i have been using GTX 5W-20 with good wear #'s and other like the penzoil platinum that looks very impressive.
I agree. Try something else until you get the numbers you want. Valvoline is a good oil for the money.
i would try another oil. not impressed.
i have been using GTX 5W-20 with good wear #'s and other like the penzoil platinum that looks very impressive.
I agree. Try something else until you get the numbers you want. Valvoline is a good oil for the money.
Originally Posted By: Bulli
WAt. i thought M1 was better then this. I plan on using it for my 07 civic. Might reconsider but there is something stuck on my mind to get M1. And something on the other hand is telling me to get PP.
If I had a choice either M1 or PP, PP would win hands down. I use to laugh when the guy in the M1 commercial use to say, "nothing outperforms M1." Yea ok buddy, keep telling yourself that. M1 use to be good.
WAt. i thought M1 was better then this. I plan on using it for my 07 civic. Might reconsider but there is something stuck on my mind to get M1. And something on the other hand is telling me to get PP.
If I had a choice either M1 or PP, PP would win hands down. I use to laugh when the guy in the M1 commercial use to say, "nothing outperforms M1." Yea ok buddy, keep telling yourself that. M1 use to be good.
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With such short oil changes, why not just use the cheapest dino you can find ?
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Originally Posted By: Bulli
WAt. i thought M1 was better then this. I plan on using it for my 07 civic. Might reconsider but there is something stuck on my mind to get M1. And something on the other hand is telling me to get PP.
If I had a choice either M1 or PP, PP would win hands down. I use to laugh when the guy in the M1 commercial use to say, "nothing outperforms M1." Yea ok buddy, keep telling yourself that. M1 use to be good.
can you explain to me why tough? im a noob i guess you can say. i cheked the specs on both websites and mobil 1 extended permormance out performs PP in most of the tests.
Originally Posted By: Bulli
WAt. i thought M1 was better then this. I plan on using it for my 07 civic. Might reconsider but there is something stuck on my mind to get M1. And something on the other hand is telling me to get PP.
If I had a choice either M1 or PP, PP would win hands down. I use to laugh when the guy in the M1 commercial use to say, "nothing outperforms M1." Yea ok buddy, keep telling yourself that. M1 use to be good.
can you explain to me why tough? im a noob i guess you can say. i cheked the specs on both websites and mobil 1 extended permormance out performs PP in most of the tests.
Yes, it's a good thing you ran the test because you need to get a different oil; those numbers are too high for only 3,423 miles.
the report is fine!!! for a dino.....
Originally Posted By: paul246
Can someone explain what is so bad with this report? The viscosity #'s look OK to me, and keep in mind that the oil was used for mostly in city short trips. Thanks.
with a short OCI you want to see wear #'s below the universal avg..
the better oils will also turn in below average wear numbers, the lesser oils above average. i would be willing to bet you get better numbers with the other oils i talked about. for the price you paid for the mobil1 i think you can do better.
not everybody makes a good 5w-20 yet.
Can someone explain what is so bad with this report? The viscosity #'s look OK to me, and keep in mind that the oil was used for mostly in city short trips. Thanks.
with a short OCI you want to see wear #'s below the universal avg..
the better oils will also turn in below average wear numbers, the lesser oils above average. i would be willing to bet you get better numbers with the other oils i talked about. for the price you paid for the mobil1 i think you can do better.
not everybody makes a good 5w-20 yet.
Originally Posted By: BigBadf350
Originally Posted By: paul246
Can someone explain what is so bad with this report? The viscosity #'s look OK to me, and keep in mind that the oil was used for mostly in city short trips. Thanks.
with a short OCI you want to see wear #'s below the universal avg..
the better oils will also turn in below average wear numbers, the lesser oils above average. i would be willing to bet you get better numbers with the other oils i talked about. for the price you paid for the mobil1 i think you can do better.
not everybody makes a good 5w-20 yet.
well who makes top 5-20 oil so far?
Originally Posted By: paul246
Can someone explain what is so bad with this report? The viscosity #'s look OK to me, and keep in mind that the oil was used for mostly in city short trips. Thanks.
with a short OCI you want to see wear #'s below the universal avg..
the better oils will also turn in below average wear numbers, the lesser oils above average. i would be willing to bet you get better numbers with the other oils i talked about. for the price you paid for the mobil1 i think you can do better.
not everybody makes a good 5w-20 yet.
well who makes top 5-20 oil so far?
Try some Havoline, Valvoline or PP in your Civic, I bet it would show better results.
Originally Posted By: Bulli
well who makes top 5-20 oil so far?
hee, hee, thats like asking who is the best looking woman in the world.
all we know at this point is mobil1 5w-20 is likely not the best for this engine.
well who makes top 5-20 oil so far?
hee, hee, thats like asking who is the best looking woman in the world.
all we know at this point is mobil1 5w-20 is likely not the best for this engine.
not to steal the thread or anyhting but here are the facts on some oil... M1 and PP
vis @100. 8.65/8.48
vis @40 48.3/46.84
vis index 163/160
flash 228/224
pour -47/-45
M1 beats PP slightly in all of them.
What else is important when considering an oil?
vis @100. 8.65/8.48
vis @40 48.3/46.84
vis index 163/160
flash 228/224
pour -47/-45
M1 beats PP slightly in all of them.
What else is important when considering an oil?
Originally Posted By: Bulli
not to steal the thread or anyhting but here are the facts on some oil... M1 VS PP VS M1 EP
vis @100. 8.65/8.48/8.9
vis @40 48.3/46.84/47.4
vis index 163/160/171
flash 228/224/235
pour -47/-45/-51
M1 beats PP slightly in all of them.
What else is important when considering an oil?
I think the topic starter should give M1 ep a try..
not to steal the thread or anyhting but here are the facts on some oil... M1 VS PP VS M1 EP
vis @100. 8.65/8.48/8.9
vis @40 48.3/46.84/47.4
vis index 163/160/171
flash 228/224/235
pour -47/-45/-51
M1 beats PP slightly in all of them.
What else is important when considering an oil?
I think the topic starter should give M1 ep a try..
All I know is when I tried M1 in my truck a few years ago (approx 15K ago), when I would start my truck up once every 2 weeks, it would tap for a few secs until the oil pressure pumped up. My truck is stored most of the time and it is not driven much. I do not have the tapping problem with RP or Valvoline Synpower and I have let my truck sit as long as one month before starting it. I think it was the M1 TriSyn oil.
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hee, hee, thats like asking who is the best looking woman in the world.
That would be Tabatha Jordan.
hee, hee, thats like asking who is the best looking woman in the world.
That would be Tabatha Jordan.
Originally Posted By: Bulli
not to steal the thread or anyhting but here are the facts on some oil... M1 and PP
vis @100. 8.65/8.48
vis @40 48.3/46.84
vis index 163/160
flash 228/224
pour -47/-45
M1 beats PP slightly in all of them.
What else is important when considering an oil?
How well it performs in your motor
not to steal the thread or anyhting but here are the facts on some oil... M1 and PP
vis @100. 8.65/8.48
vis @40 48.3/46.84
vis index 163/160
flash 228/224
pour -47/-45
M1 beats PP slightly in all of them.
What else is important when considering an oil?
How well it performs in your motor
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