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Originally posted by Locomotive:
My 05 Grand Caravan says every 3k on severe service and 6k on regular use. I say 2 or 3 changes at 3k to break in the engine then go to changes every 5k with 5w30 syn til my stash runs dry then it will be Pennzoil 5w20 for life.

Thats the same for my Uncles PT Cruiser.

We change it 3k or 4 months since he drives around town quite a bit and a few 200 mile trips per OCI.

(Now if I can just get him off the Fram Oil filter mindset... I used a Supertech Ecore on his outfit for one OCI and cut it open after to show him all is ok.. He has used Fram for "xx years and never had a problem" ... Oh well...
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Originally posted by Locomotive:
My 05 Grand Caravan says every 3k on severe service and 6k on regular use.

And....Brian703 "Ford reduced their non-severe OCIs from 7500 to 5000 miles in the early 90s. Severe OCIs remained at 3000 miles."

The interesting/odd thing is that Chrysler's manual is worded to put nearly everyone in the severe OCI and Ford's is worded to put nearly everyone in the longer OCI.

Their engineers must have attended different universities!
 
martyi:
My ex-brother-in-law just bought a new 2006 fully loaded Ridgeline. He plans to change the factory fill at 5k miles, then go with a synthetic.

I agree with the synthetic (actually he could use some of the good hi-moly oils), but I think he's nuts to keep the factory fill in the car for 5000 miles! I'd get that stuff out at about 1000 or 1500 just to get some of the machining bits and pieces out of the engine. What do you think?

Also, what's the link to this Ridgeline forum so I can share it with him?
 
Honda engines are made very well and clean. If they even thought the factory fill would only handle 1 or 2K miles, they would have you change it out. How many umpteen thousand Honda engines are out there? used oil analysis have shown that Honda beefs up their moly content at the factory fill a lot. It's best to leave the factory fill in at first and change it out at its designated mileage.
 
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Originally posted by axjohn:
martyi:
My ex-brother-in-law just bought a new 2006 fully loaded Ridgeline. He plans to change the factory fill at 5k miles, then go with a synthetic.

I agree with the synthetic (actually he could use some of the good hi-moly oils), but I think he's nuts to keep the factory fill in the car for 5000 miles! I'd get that stuff out at about 1000 or 1500 just to get some of the machining bits and pieces out of the engine. What do you think?

Also, what's the link to this Ridgeline forum so I can share it with him?


I don't know about the Ridgeline, but my Honda Odyssey manual specifically states NOT to remove the factory fill until the oil life indicator tells you to do so. I have to go and re-read it, but they do have a special factory fill and I think they even admited to it in the manual (but I have to double check that).
 
I think the factory focus in on the new car buyer and keeping expenses down. They know how long the first owner keeps the car, on average. Maybe following that scheme means the second owner gets a more used used car. That person is that the factory's customer. I think the people that lurk around here are not average people, and probably a lot of them use synthetic and change it more often than required or necessary. I work hard at maintenance and change the oil and do as much of the maintenance stuff that I can in the driveway. I have brothers that know, in general terms where the engine is, but they are not really sure. And finding the hood release not a chance. One brother has a new Honda and he is following the blinking light and goes in for an oil change when the Pilot tells him to. It's a prefect setup for him. He will never keep that Honda until its paid off, not a chance.
 
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