Mobil 1 or Castrol Syntec ?

[tig1]

Originally Posted By: atc250r
I don't like Mobil 1. My engine burned a quart of it in under 4000 miles. My engine has never used a drop of any other brand, synthetic or conv, before or since I tried Mobil 1. I will never use it again. And do a search on engines consuming Mobil 1; I am not alone. Now I am running Amsoil Signature Series and am very happy.


Show us what you mean. Many will here at BITOG will dispute what you are saying including myself.

 

[DrDusty86]

tig..check out the link I posted. Can you dispute that?

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
Here dude... it's in the search function.. Use it it did FAIL..no question.
http://www.jobbersworld.com/March%2020,%202009.htm

OVERK1LL already commented on this before you even provided the link. Still no mention of VQ. What is VQ test?

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
Here dude... it's in the search function.. Use it it did FAIL..no question.
http://www.jobbersworld.com/March%2020,%202009.htm


You have SERIOUS reading comprehension problems.

1. In my (VERY COMPLETE) reply to you, I did not indicate that Ashland's test data was falsified or made up.

2. I gave you a very clear, and widely accepted reason on this board as to why that particular batch failed that particular test.

3. That link speaks of the Sequence IVA test findings by Ashland, which is what we've been telling you for the last 4 pages, not some VQ test that has nothing to do with motor oil.

I already covered this. You aren't posting anything "NEW" to the topic, that ENTIRE link is addressed in my post, addressed to you that you apparently didn't read. Incredible.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
I thought it was BP. It was Valvoline..SORRY.. Still funny how you guys defend an oil like it's your wife or kid. Even though XOM is the biggest producer of Hyrocracked G III oils DOESN'T mean they are the best.
Are these test rigged? Tell me OverK1ll, Volk..... Staged?? Could it be that it really isn't that good?


Are you for real?

1. ExxonMobil is the largest producer of PAO, not Group III.

2. I already answered your "rigged" question pages ago, and very completely.

Are you drunk? (I'm serious) I cannot fathom how somebody can be given such complete answers as the ones provided and then continue to ask the questions and make the statements you do. It is beyond belief!

 

[Solarent]

Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
tig..check out the link I posted. Can you dispute that?


So are you alleging (through this article) that Mobil 1 does not pass the sequence IVA test. Because that would mean that the API would not have certified the oil, and as that never happened, I seriously doubt some of the claims of valvoline as addressed in that article.

 

[DrDusty86]

If it was a "BAD" batch as you claim, Why didn't XOM defend it?
I'm not abusing your mother. I'm not abusing your kid. AGAIN CHILL OUT k1ll. IT'S JUST OIL. as for reading comp problems. No, You my G 3 "FAKE" synthetic using friend are so caught up in defending your "baby" to the death, YOU! missed the main point in my post..
I'm out...I don't hit kids or women...just calling out a "poser" oil

 

[Quattro Pete]

Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
If it was a "BAD" batch as you claim, Why didn't XOM defend it?

What is there to defend? API is the one that decides whether an oil meets a given spec or not. According to API, M1 5w-30 continues to meet the spec. End of discussion. XOM doesn't need to say a word unless API finds it in non-compliance.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
If it was a "BAD" batch as you claim, Why didn't XOM defend it?
I'm not abusing your mother. I'm not abusing your kid. AGAIN CHILL OUT k1ll. IT'S JUST OIL. as for reading comp problems. No, You my G 3 "FAKE" synthetic using friend are so caught up in defending your "baby" to the death, YOU! missed the main point in my post..
I'm out...I don't hit kids or women...just calling out a "poser" oil


You had a point

I couldn't tell with all the false information, make believe, conjecture and outright garbage.

XOM didn't defend it because they didn't need to. The claims never got the traction that Ashland wanted so it never did anything to effect Mobil's market share. The API also stated that the product met the spec, so that ended it.

The most effective marketing program right now is SOPUS's "clean" campaign, which doesn't target their competitors claiming they "failed" anything.

And you clearly DO have a serious reading comprehension problem, whether you like to acknowledge it or not. Otherwise we wouldn't be on page 5 of this nonsense.

As for beating women and children? I'm not sure where that came from, but, like most of your out in left field comments, I don't expect it to make sense.

 

[aquariuscsm]

Anyone here ever try/use Syntec 10w40?

 

[Dually]

With the comments giving to my question I'm sorry I posted my question about these two oils.Joe

 

[donnyj08]

OVERK1LL im glad you took the time to explain the story behind the sequence IVA test. Ive been a mobil 1 user for years, but the misinforming about that test that is spread over the internet did discourage me from using M1 in my new Ram. i still us it on 2 vehicles and have never stopped, but ive been i guess hesitant to use it in my Ram after reading some info online a while back.

Next oil change i may skip on over to WM and pick me up some 5w20 M1 for the Ram, My Amsoil OE is almost ready to be changed anyway and im out of 5w20 OE stash.

Thanks for explaining the IVA test, this ruckus here has actually done some good and helped inform me.

there is a little light at the end of tunnel you could say

 

[poiuy223]

Originally Posted By: Dually
With the comments giving to my question I'm sorry I posted my question about these two oils.Joe

I love these threads. It gives you the chance to see whose recommendations/suggestions/comments you can actually believe.

I'm a total n00b, but reading through threads helped me figure out who has quality knowledge and who doesn't.

 

[poiuy223]

I just went back and re-read the full thread. THIS IS HILARIOUS!!!

I call drunk!

 

[skyship]

Castrol Syntec does not have such a great following in the EU as GTX and Magnetec.
Mobil 1 is a very good well proven oil, although I use Liqui Moly Synthoil 5/40 because it's made in Germany and fairly cheap. Castrol lost their lead in the German market to Liqui Moly this year as the no 1 oil company.
A lot of Mobil 1 folks use the 0/40, BUT oddly enough it appears to offer less high temp protection than 5/40:

In the search for a "Porsche approved" oil, a quick glance at various Porsche owners manuals for a Turbo and GT2 as late as 2004 showed a recommendation for an API SH or SJ motor oil, so my recommendation is to find an approved oil with at least an API SL rating - an API SH or SJ would be even better. Additionally, try to use a 5w40 rather than a 0w40, as the viscosity with the narrower spread will have a higher high temperature high shear viscosity and should protect critical engine parts better at the upper limits. You do not need a 0w over a 5w until cold start temperatures are under -25C. Do not run any 0w30, 5w30, or 10w30 oil in your Porsche, aircooled engines included!

 

[atc250r]

Please read every post in this thread. Yes, Tig1, I know you were a Mobil 1 fan back then too!

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1935878&page=1

By all means use whatever oil you want. I do not have a vested interest in any oil company! I just know I won't use Mobil 1 again.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: atc250r
Please read every post in this thread. Yes, Tig1, I know you were a Mobil 1 fan back then too!

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1935878&page=1

By all means use whatever oil you want. I do not have a vested interest in any oil company! I just know I won't use Mobil 1 again.



The only posts of real value in that thread were the ones made by Tom NJ. I can't see any sort of conclusion, even a wild one, being drawn from that thread, sorry.

 

[atc250r]

Someone asked for proof that others, besides Me, have had Mobil 1 consumption issues. And I provided.

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: atc250r
Someone asked for proof that others, besides Me, have had Mobil 1 consumption issues. And I provided.

Nothing more, nothing less.



OK, fair enough.

That said, there are a huge number of users, myself included, who have used it in a wide variety of applications without experiencing this phenomenon.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
That said, there are a huge number of users, myself included, who have used it in a wide variety of applications without experiencing this phenomenon.


Agreed. Additionally, with respect to consumption issues, find one lube out there that no one has ever complained about consumption issues. My old Audi consumed M1 5w-30. It wasn't Mobil 1's fault. It was my fault for choosing a thin oil, and the manual specifically warned that consumption may arise when choosing a thin oil for winter use. 0w-40 and similar grades solved the problem.