Mobil 1 5w-30 ESP…….use it in everything?

[Zack1978]

Hi everyone,
As the tile indicates, is Mobil 1 5w30 ESP basically the best universal oil assuming you need 5w30? I was recently in WalMart and the ESP is $27.00 for five quarts. With the price point in line with some of the other “big players” in the game, it would seem crazy to use anything else, right?
I realize that the ESP is slightly thicker and it might have a minuscule impact on one’s gas mileage, but that seems to be a very small price to pay for much much better engine protection.
Am I missing anything here? Are there any downsides to using the ESP in everything that calls for a 5w30? Could it be “too thick” for some cars? Are there any cars that you can think of that have issues with the ESP?
I’m trying to think of any negatives and I can’t seem to find any. Also it’s worth noting that I am not looking for any type of extended service life from the oil. I tend to change oil early.
And I am correct in that it does offer better or the best engine protection, right?

Thank you

 

[Glenda W.]

Absolutely a fantastic oil. Personally I prefer the ESP 0W-30 version.

 

[demarpaint]

Great choice imo. No need to overthink it.

 

[kschachn]

Absolutely a fantastic oil. Personally I prefer the ESP 0W-30 version.

Pretty much a universal oil. Sufficient HT/HS, demanding approvals, universal winter rating, lower SAPS and under $28 at the ubiquitous Walmarts.

 

[melk]

M1 ESP is likely what I would be running if VRP didn’t exist.

 

[ka9mnx]

If I wasn't so satisfied with M1 Euro FS 0w-40, I would be using M1 0w-30 ESP. Actually, I almost made the change at my last OCI's.

 

[Propflux01]

I use the 0w-30 in both of my vehicles, one of which specs 0w-20, and the other which specs 5w-30. Both turbos. Both seem to “like” it.

 

[AdmiralYoda]

Absolutely a fantastic oil. Personally I prefer the ESP 0W-30 version.

Word on the street is that the 0W-30 has some esthers in it as compared to the 5W-30. Any truth to this? The 0W-30 might perform a little cleaning if that is the case.

 

[Glenda W.]

Word on the street is that the 0W-30 has some esthers in it as compared to the 5W-30. Any truth to this? The 0W-30 might perform a little cleaning if that is the case.

Yes. High virgin oxidation indicates esters.

 

[ATex7239]

Hard to beat ESP as a one-stop shop kinda oil.

 

[fen1]

While I cannot say which oil you should use, it's M1 ESP 0W-30 for my cars. I like the HTHS of 3.5 and maybe a little esters. I don't extend oil changes on my cars and I know I can trust the M1 0W30 will be fine till I change again.

 

[Bighorn2500]

Sounds good to me, running the 0W30 ESP in the Durango currently.

 

[hardheaded]

Don't anyone use 10w30 ? That's what i am going to run in my 11 Tahoe. We will see how it goes.

 

[kschachn]

Don't anyone use 10w30 ? That's what i am going to run in my 11 Tahoe. We will see how it goes.

For what reason? Especially compared to ESP in a 30-grade it will have an inferior base stock and no real guaranteed performance. If you get it cheap, maybe. But for me $28 is hard to ignore.

 

[OilUzer]

Once I run out of my existing stash, I am planning on using the ESP in our DI which is mainly on M1 EP 10W-30 or whatever other Euro oil on sale (lately Castrol). The book and oil cap says 5W-20. Overall I am a M1 user but wonder off sometimes due to sale prices.

Thinking the ESP may even help IVD but the jury may be out on that one. Is there any Euro approval which has IVD related testing?

 

[duck__dodgers]

...it would seem crazy to use anything else, right?

Pretty crazy how the brain can (needlessly) second-guess itself when there isn't a constant marketing barrage aimed at your eyeballs, isn't it? (talking about the ESP line....which I've never seen any advertising for aside from rebates at the chain auto parts stores and Walmart cash this summer---or maybe I just wasn't paying attention, lol)

 

[Propflux01]

I just hope they don’t change the formula for the cheapening.

 

[3800Series]

Same, seems like any time something gets a good reputation its pretty often penny pinched by bean counters to increase margins ever so slightly more.

My guess is if they can they will ultimately, and while I get if it meets the spec why does it matter but there is always the argument of best product at a price point.

 

[wavinwayne]

I put M1 ESP 5w30 in my 2 BMWs today. One gasser, one diesel. LL-04 for the win!

 

[OilUzer]

Pretty crazy how the brain can (needlessly) second-guess itself when there isn't a constant marketing barrage aimed at your eyeballs, isn't it? (talking about the ESP line....which I've never seen any advertising for aside from rebates at the chain auto parts stores and Walmart cash this summer---or maybe I just wasn't paying attention, lol)

All advertisements I see is on the bitog.

Hardly on sale at Wal-Mart or any other store I've gone to. Except one time it was $24 at WMT for a very short time.

but you know, I look at the approvals and it has bunch of tough approvals and for $24 or $27 ain't too bad.

Other things I like is narrower spread than 0W-40. And relatively speaking, has higher HTHS and lower Noack than typical 30 grade.