Mobil 1 0W-40 Supercar vs Mobil 1 0W-40 ESP

[OVERKILL]

More importantly, less Calcium produces less Carbon. Less Carbon aids in our breathing power.

You are going to have to explain this statement.

 

[kschachn]

What do you think is "wrong" with FS 0W-40 currently to make it "suck"?

This thread went to heck in a handbasket pretty quick.

 

[4WD]

This is the back of an actual bottle - M1 SC is Dexos R only:

 

[chris719]

This is the back of an actual bottle - M1 SC is Dexos R only:

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It used to be Dexos2 before they rebranded it.

 

[Plumb Bob]

You are going to have to explain this statement.

 

[OVERKILL]

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Why did you just post a screenshot of his post in this thread?

 

[Plumb Bob]

Why did you just post a screenshot of his post in this thread?

My curiosity got the best of me, and I searched for his statement. That was the top result.

 

[OVERKILL]

My curiosity got the best of me, and I searched for his statement. That was the top result.

Which is just his statement in this thread. Not helping matters here, lol.

 

[Longgrayline2016]

Virgin oil samples from the two types.

One is of 0W-40 ESP x3, the other is 0W-40 Supercar.

You can decide and make your own choices with this information.

 

[fantastic]

Virgin oil samples from the two types.

One is of 0W-40 ESP x3, the other is 0W-40 Supercar.

You can decide and make your own choices with this information.

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ESP seems to have lower viscosity. Add packs look the same though.

 

[chris719]

They are similar but I think Blackstone is unreliable of late. The X3 VOA does not match the other 4 or so I have seen.

 

[thastinger]

ESP seems to have lower viscosity. Add packs look the same though.

Wonder what the margin of error is on the ZDDP numbers?
I like the original 0-40 Euro that had Zn and P that were both over 1000 ppm.

 

[OVERKILL]

Wonder what the margin of error is on the ZDDP numbers?
I like the original 0-40 Euro that had Zn and P that were both over 1000 ppm.

Yeah, that's FS, the full-SAPS version.

 

[fantastic]

Wonder what the margin of error is on the ZDDP numbers?
I like the original 0-40 Euro that had Zn and P that were both over 1000 ppm.

Mobil FS 0w-40 is the closest you'll get w/ 930 P/1000 Z.

 

[robertcope]

They are similar but I think Blackstone is unreliable of late. The X3 VOA does not match the other 4 or so I have seen.

I feel like Blackstone has never been very reliable. For years here, I've seen people told to "have them rerun it".

 

[Triple_Se7en]

You are going to have to explain this statement.

I do not recall ever saying / typing that.
I giggled, chuckled and shook my own head, after reading that reply.
If that sentence knocked your helmet loose from your own disbelieving head shake, I do apologize.
I hope I wasn't the reason your mirror shades now resonate two different colors (red and green).

 

[thastinger]

Mobil FS 0w-40 is the closest you'll get w/ 930 P/1000 Z.

I buy the garage packs if I can find them. The bottles have the "FS" on the front of them but I haven't seen that on the 12Qt packs. Is the below the full SAPS stuff? How can one tell if it doesn't have FS on the box?
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mobil-1-...umYPd4bSTdVjJkKaAYFVHTr6bQhnL8xhoC9FAQAvD_BwE

 

[kschachn]

I do not recall ever saying / typing that.
I giggled, chuckled and shook my own head, after reading that reply.
If that sentence knocked your helmet loose from your own disbelieving head shake, I do apologize.
I hope I wasn't the reason your mirror shades now resonate two different colors (red and green).

That's the first sign.

 

[Charleydog]

I just bought a 2024 Escalade V. It has a variant of the LT4. Cadillac states that it takes 0W-40 Dexos 2 (ESP) oil. While I have just sent a message to Mobil 1 via their web-site on this question, I'm trying to understand the differences (formula-wise) between these oils. Some on the internet are saying that ESP has now been renamed Supercar. I'm curious if anyone on this esteemed forum knows anything about the oil(s). Many who have LT4s in Camaros & Black Wings have switched to Supercar. Obviously - I'm not tracking an Escalade; I just want the best oil for it - and need to understand the differences here (if there are any - and it isn't just a name change as many indicate). Both oils are still shown on the Mobil 1 web-site. Thanks.

Check out Lake Speeds Chanel, the motor oil geek. He has complete break down on all Mobil 0w40 oils.

 

[webfors]

FS reformulated for sure when it hit SP:

Thread 'Mobil 1 0W/40FS European Car Formula 2.7k mi; 2002 Ford Ranger 3.0L Vulcan 111.8k mi'

May 1, 2025

Not much to report, obviously it sat a lot.

• DuckRyder
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• Forum: Used Oil Analysis - Gasoline

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I asked OP to confirm with bottle pics, but the add pack looks similar to other 0w40's now. Low calcium for LSPI protection. Curious if OPs previous fill in that thread was the OLD formulation... hoping he'll confirm cause we now have a side by side comparison of old/new FS.