Mixing Pennzoil Euro viscosities

And LL-04 appears to be easier on Catalytic Converters or DPFs for Diesels
I have used LL-01 on my 2001 BMW 540 M-Sport since new. 23 years later and 367,600 miles I still have the original catalytic convertors and all factory emissions equipment working perfectly fine on the car. It is daily driven.

I'm unconvinced your custom blending is going to do a thing, but it should not hurt anything either.
 
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I have used LL-01 on my 2001 BMW 540 M-Sport since new. 23 years later and 367,600 miles I still have the original catalytic convertors and all factory emissions equipment working perfectly fine on the car. It is daily driven.

I'm unconvinced your custom blending is going to do a thing, but it should not hurt anything either.
Inspiring! Although very different engine with different power curves. Forced induction engines are much harder on engine oil that can negatively affect the cats. What were your OCIs?
 
Inspiring! Although very different engine with different power curves. Forced induction engines are much harder on engine oil that can negatively affect the cats. What were your OCIs?
Were? I still daily drive the car...since new. 7500 mile oil changes, only LL-01 or in the past year, occasional LL-04...whatever is on sale at WalMart.

Can you explain how forced induction is harder on catalytic converters please?
 
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Inspiring! Although very different engine with different power curves. Forced induction engines are much harder on engine oil that can negatively affect the cats. What were your OCIs?
I have gone back and forth on LL-01 and LL-04 on my M550ix as well. It's on a stage 1 making 570hp at the crank after the last dyno test on a MainLine hub dyno.
 
Were? I still daily drive the car...since new. 7500 mile oil changes, only LL-01 or in the past year, occasional LL-04...whatever is on sale at WalMart.

Can you explain how forced induction is harder on catalytic converters please?
Over time, blow-by can reduce engine efficiency as it coats parts of the intake in oil and fuel. In forced-induction and intercooled engines, blow-by often coats the inside of the intercooler, severely affecting its ability to transfer heat and cool the intake charge. These issues become even more apparent with age. As piston rings and cylinder walls wear, more and more fuel and oil is able to pass into the crankcase and eventually into the intake system.

 
I have gone back and forth on LL-01 and LL-04 on my M550ix as well. It's on a stage 1 making 570hp at the crank after the last dyno test on a MainLine hub dyno.
Love my 2018 M550ix!!!! It’s has abt 4k mi on Penn Euro L (LL-04) and planning on going to 5k mi before changing oil
 
Over time, blow-by can reduce engine efficiency as it coats parts of the intake in oil and fuel. In forced-induction and intercooled engines, blow-by often coats the inside of the intercooler, severely affecting its ability to transfer heat and cool the intake charge. These issues become even more apparent with age. As piston rings and cylinder walls wear, more and more fuel and oil is able to pass into the crankcase and eventually into the intake system.

Running an oil separator with fully functioning PCV system will greatly help in Forced Induction engines. Also a good idea to periodically check/clean the intercoolers
 
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Pnly way it will affect catalytic converters is if your engine is burning oil.
There are LL04 oils with higher Zinc levels than LL01.
Agree and forced induction engines have higher likelihood of oil accumulation in the intake system all of which is preventable with proper maintenance and inspection
 
Agree and forced induction engines have higher likelihood of oil accumulation in the intake system all of which is preventable with proper maintenance and inspection
That all depends on how PCV is executed. BMW (except N54) usually has a very well-executed PCV system.
I would worry about oil and catalytic converter in non-oil burning engine as much as why it did not snow on 26th of January last winter.
 
That all depends on how PCV is executed. BMW (except N54) usually has a very well-executed PCV system.
I would worry about oil and catalytic converter in non-oil burning engine as much as why it did not snow on 26th of January last winter.
Haha.!!. so back to the topic at hand… best to run low SAPS (LL-04) if you suspect your engine is consuming oil or intercoolers are oil saturated? Both my N54 and N63 are running 100% LL-04 but want to add 20% LL-01 of the same Pennzoil base stock to help with bearing wear with increased ZDDP. I think it’s around 800ppm Zinc for LL-04 and 1000ppm for LL-01 from my research. So maybe insignificant from that perspective but Euro 5w-40 carries the API SP rating vs SN rating on the Euro L 5w-30
 
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Your mix will have neither BMW approval, and it could be worse than either individually.
Highly doubtful. Please explain why…. Same base stock and similar HTHS both meeting the BMW LL standards. Please don’t post unless you have substance.
 
Haha.!!. so back to the topic at hand… best to run low SAPS (LL-04) if you suspect your engine is consuming oil or intercoolers are oil saturated? Both my N54 and N63 are running 100% LL-04 but want to add 20% LL-01 of the same Pennzoil base stock to help with bearing wear with increased ZDDP. I think it’s around 800ppm Zinc for LL-04 and 1000ppm for LL-01 from my research. So maybe insignificant from that perspective but Euro 5w-40 carries the API SP rating vs SN rating on the Euro L 5w-30
How much ZDDP you will have depends on particular oil.
Both engines you have, are problematic children of BMW in the last 20yrs. In N54 LL04 makes sense bcs. IVD. Forget catalytic converters. There is pretty good evidence that low-SAPS oils reduce IVD. It won’t prevent, but it might buy you some additional time before valve blasting. Is your N54 tuned?
In N63 I would run LL01, period.
 
How much ZDDP you will have depends on particular oil.
Both engines you have, are problematic children of BMW in the last 20yrs. In N54 LL04 makes sense bcs. IVD. Forget catalytic converters. There is pretty good evidence that low-SAPS oils reduce IVD. It won’t prevent, but it might buy you some additional time before valve blasting. Is your N54 tuned?
In N63 I would run LL01, period.
I’m only running Penn Euros as the topic suggests. Mainly Euro L (low SAPS) and using top tier (shell) gas on both cars. With all due respect… I don’t see why LL-01/04 even matters if US gas is ULSG as everyone else suggests. LL-04 just has slightly less ZDDP
 
I’m only running Penn Euros as the topic suggests. Mainly Euro L (low SAPS) and using top tier (shell) gas on both cars. With all due respect… I don’t see why LL-01/04 even matters if US gas is ULSG as everyone else suggests. LL-04 just has slightly less ZDDP
Low-SAPS oils leave fewer deposits on intake valves.
As for LL01, we had here tables from Mercedes testing where Low-SAPS oils (ACEA C3) produced more wear.
So, your call.
 
If the car calls for LL01 I would use LL01 but you can also use one that is also API SP, which will have lower saps level than the previous SL/SM those oils typically meet.
 
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If the car calls for LL01 I would use LL01 but you can also use one that is API SP, which will have lower saps level than the previous SL/SM those oils typically meet.
An API SP license is nothing like a BMW Longlife-01 approval. That would be a technically inappropriate substitution.
 
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