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[Trajan]

Originally Posted By: Mykl
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
That's a cop-out. Again: the box is 13'6" high. Climbing up is not permitted. (It means instant termination from most companies.) Walking on the box is not possible. How, exactly, am I supposed to clear my roof?


My first thought is...

What supercedes the other? Public law, or company policy?




Law > Company policy.

 

[Kestas]

Hopefully, this law will reduce the number of comets barreling down the freeway after a snowfall.

 

[supton]

Originally Posted By: morris
does that mean the snow in my truck bed. cause it does kick up at speed. but dont think it blocks any ones vision.


I'd clean it out. I was following a truck for a bit today, and there was a cloud following him at times, as it swirled around in the bed.

 

[whip]

Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: Mykl
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
That's a cop-out. Again: the box is 13'6" high. Climbing up is not permitted. (It means instant termination from most companies.) Walking on the box is not possible. How, exactly, am I supposed to clear my roof?


My first thought is...

What supercedes the other? Public law, or company policy?




Law > Company policy.

It's company policy based on OHSA regulations(public law). Every company I know of would fire employees if they break OHSA regulations. As always, it's not as simple as people want it to be.

 

[yonyon]

It isn't so simple, no, but it should be.

How hard could it be to design an aftermarket accessory device that can be permanently fitted up to trucks for snow removal? To sell these devices there has to be a market and the way to prepare a market for the device is through fines.

 

[whip]

Originally Posted By: yonyon
It isn't so simple, no, but it should be.

How hard could it be to design an aftermarket accessory device that can be permanently fitted up to trucks for snow removal? To sell these devices there has to be a market and the way to prepare a market for the device is through fines.

If the device is so simple, design it, and make yourself a million dollars.

 

[Cujet]

I wonder if Florida is going to enact such a law?

 

[supton]

Originally Posted By: Cujet
I wonder if Florida is going to enact such a law?


As soon as we impliment laws against alligator petting up here, I bet.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted By: supton
Ask the company why it won't comply with the law and/or why it feels content to promote unsafe vehicle conditions. If they won't let you clean it off then they are allowing you to drive a vehicle which may be unsafe to others.


Yet again, for at least the fourth time: there is simply NO WAY TO GET TO THE TRAILER ROOF to remove the snow! We do not have the equipment required by OSHA to do so, and again: the trailer roofs will not hold the weight of a p[erson!

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted By: yonyon
It isn't so simple, no, but it should be.

How hard could it be to design an aftermarket accessory device that can be permanently fitted up to trucks for snow removal? To sell these devices there has to be a market and the way to prepare a market for the device is through fines.


Figure it out, patent it, and you'll be a billionaire. Standard OTR trailer roof is 53' long, 8'6" wide, and 13'6" high. Other sizes you'll want to have are 48', 45', 28', 26', and 24'.

 

[1 FMF]

most drivers around here are a holes cutting off trucks before exit ramps so i have no sympathy. everyone wants to drive 80 packed together like a nascar race after a snow storm they deserve it.

i never have a problem with snow or ice on top of trucks because i simply don't follow close enough to them for it to ever be a problem. if they are going to slow and i need to pass, well they are either going slow enough to where snow and ice coming off is not a problem, or it's that bad out i don't need to go faster then them.

having heard this type of discussion many times over the years, i find it funny how every time people say oh you should just be able to buy this or that to fix the problem having no idea the scope of the problem. funny how it's easy to suggest that when it's not their money, liberal mentality i guess. not only that it wouldn't fix the problem entirely only a feel good solution.
you know what would solve everything, letting off on the gas and putting some distance between you and the truck.
or what we could do just like banning trucks from the left lane is ban them from being on the road under certain conditions that way everyone in their bmw or lexus suv can have the road to themselves.

 

[The_Jeff]

Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: supton
Ask the company why it won't comply with the law and/or why it feels content to promote unsafe vehicle conditions. If they won't let you clean it off then they are allowing you to drive a vehicle which may be unsafe to others.


Yet again, for at least the fourth time: there is simply NO WAY TO GET TO THE TRAILER ROOF to remove the snow! We do not have the equipment required by OSHA to do so, and again: the trailer roofs will not hold the weight of a p[erson!


Sounds like trucking businesses need to do some capital investment. A rolling set of stairs like from a warehouse and roof rake would be a start.

It might also set the ball rolling for drivers to refuse to drive snow-covered loads until the company clears them. If they're fired they can sue for wrongful termination because of being ordered to do something illegal.

 

[Jarlaxle]

ARRRRRRRGH! I feel like I am explaining this to my cats!

Climbing "rolling stairs" to clear snow IS A VIOLATION OF OSHA REGULATIONS! Keep rereading that until it sinks in!

 

[supton]

When I go into Home Depot I always see rolling stairs. They squat down as soon as you stand on them, or something to that effect.

Failing that, it's not illegal to drive around the yard with a snow load, and park next to some elevated platform/scafolding from which a person could reach out with a roofrake.

Heck, they could raise a 2x10 to the proper height, and have trucks drive under that as they go out.

 

[whip]

The rolling stairs would work for trucks parked at a terminal, but that still doesn't address the trucks parked at truck stops or rest areas.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Yet AGAIN, at least the fourth time: Climbing "rolling stairs" to clear snow IS A VIOLATION OF OSHA REGULATIONS! Keep rereading that until it sinks in!

 

[The_Jeff]

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[whip]

Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Yet AGAIN, at least the fourth time: Climbing "rolling stairs" to clear snow IS A VIOLATION OF OSHA REGULATIONS! Keep rereading that until it sinks in!

I'm not an OSHA expert. Why is it OK for a mechanic to use rolling stairs to change a marker light, but it wouldn't be OK to clear snow?

 

[The_Eric]

Personally I don't see anything wrong with rolling stairs, but it's not really an ideal situation, and without fall protection or railings, I don't believe personnel would be allowed atop the trailers. Better would be to install a semi flexible scraper that drivers drive under on their way in/out.

 

[whip]

Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Personally I don't see anything wrong with rolling stairs, but it's not really an ideal situation, and without fall protection or railings, I don't believe personnel would be allowed atop the trailers. Better would be to install a semi flexible scraper that drivers drive under on their way in/out.

They already have those. Many companies have them installed at terminals.

That still doesn't help the drivers spending the night out of a terminal.