Michelin Harmony

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With 40K plus on OEM Conti's on my Altima, went to dealer for new tires. Never had Michelin anything before but put a set on for only a little more money, what with their $75 rebate.
Had been very satisified with the Conti's...good wear, wore evenly. But, OMG, what a difference the Harmony's made. Even my wife noticed! Quieter, softer ride. I think they've made a believer out of me.
 
Those Harmony's have a good track record. I had a set on an old Sentra and was very happy with them (surprisingly good in the snow too). Remember they're only "S" rated so handling is not going to be the best but if a smooth ride and long tread life are your priorities they're a good choice.
 
I have never bought Michelin tires, only cars that had them on and I liked 'em! Lately, of all the Michelin tires available, the Harmony don't come up in converstions very often, if at all. They are smooth/quiet/nice riding and generally, Michelin tires balance well 1st time on the balance machine w/o returning to the installer for a retry.
 
The last set of tires I put on our old Aerostar were Harmoneys.
They seemed quite decent in all conditions.
They were also available in the in the 14" size the thing needed, and 14" tires are becoming pretty obsolete.
I think you'll remain happy with the Harmoneys for many miles.
I've always had good results with Michelin tires.
 
Different Strokes. Over rated by Tire rack surveys. Average handling. Very Noisy at highway speeds. Low/average mpg. Harsh over potholes. As experienced on my,admittedly,harsh riding,02 Honda Accord V6. I'm sure they would be less objectional on softer/quieter riding cars.
 
Originally Posted By: oilmaven
Those Harmony's have a good track record. I had a set on an old Sentra and was very happy with them (surprisingly good in the snow too). Remember they're only "S" rated so handling is not going to be the best but if a smooth ride and long tread life are your priorities they're a good choice.

I agree. Harmony on my LS400 is more than 80k miles now, no other tires lasted more than 30-35k miles. Handling is not the best, but a nice quiet ride.
 
I bought a set of Michelin Destiny tires for my wife's van. Good in the snow quiet and seem to do fine with gas mileage too. I installed tires for a living once and no tire had the feel of a Michelin. Strongest bead of all brands of tire, full depth tread and even when fully worn they felt like a new tire. Other brands felt very hard(no names) or very soft and had chunks falling off(Firestone).

I have had decent luck with Goodyears, but Michelins always impress me. I have had terrible luck with [censored] off-brand tires that usually come on the used cars I buy.
 
From all that I can gather (UTQG rating, warranty, plant of manufacture and extremely similar tread pattern), the Harmony, Destiny, X Radial DT and Agility (I think now called Weathermaster) are the same tire, save for cosmetic differences in the tread pattern. I am considering these seriously as my replacement 3 season set for my '06 Sienna. I'd love to hear what people think of these as well, especially in a similar application.

Also have my eye on some Generals and Yokohamas. Would have liked the BF Goodrich Traction T/A, but that seems to be a discontinued line.
 
Originally Posted By: weebl
From all that I can gather (UTQG rating, warranty, plant of manufacture and extremely similar tread pattern), the Harmony, Destiny, X Radial DT and Agility (I think now called Weathermaster) are the same tire, save for cosmetic differences in the tread pattern. I am considering these seriously as my replacement 3 season set for my '06 Sienna. I'd love to hear what people think of these as well, especially in a similar application.


They are all the same tire. I've owned a bunch of these tires, and have been very happy with them. I had a set of Agility (now called WeatherWise II) on our '03 Grand Caravan in 215/70R15 flavor. Liked 'em so much, I put a set of X Radials on our '97 Cadillac Seville in 225/60R16. Liked THOSE so much, I put a set of X Radials on our '07 Town & Country. Excellent tires, all of them.

When you said Weathermaster above, I think you mean WeatherWise II. The Destiny is sold at Discount Tire, the X Radial at Sam's and Costco and BJs, and the WeatherWise II at Sears. The Harmony is available at independent Michelin dealers, and places like Tire Rack.
 
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
When you said Weathermaster above, I think you mean WeatherWise II. The Destiny is sold at Discount Tire, the X Radial at Sam's and Costco and BJs, and the WeatherWise II at Sears. The Harmony is available at independent Michelin dealers, and places like Tire Rack.


Yes, I meant WeatherWise II, I couldn't remember its new name correctly, but knew it was weather something. The Destiny is also available in Canada as a Canadian Tire exclusive. Interstingly, Canadian Tire sells both Destiny (regular stock) and Harmony (ordered in), but the Harmony actually has a lower list price.

Hearing your experience with them on two minivans leads me to think this would be a very good choice as a replacement tire on mine.
 
Especially given that your Sienna should take the same tire size as my Town & Country did (215/65R16). We had the X Radial on it, and they would have given us an honest 60-70k miles based on how they were wearing. I think these Michelin sisters (Harmony, etc) are about the best value all-season tires out there. You can get 'em at a good price and they're genuinely good performers.
 
Every time I've compared the UTQG on tires within my size, Michelin's have always won out. I have a set of X-Radials with a UTQG of 720, which is almost double that of comparable tires, especially Goodyear. They may cost more, but with the higher UTQG and therefore longer lifetimes, they pay for themselves not to mention the smooth ride and asthetics. My brother has a set of Goodyear Eagles on a truck he bought and they will not take any tire product (Armor All, Black Magic, Gel or Liquid). If you can afford it, buy Michelin for general use tires. I get mine at Sam's Club when they have the $70 rebate. Sam's rotates AND BALANCES each time you take it in there. This also speaks for the longevity of the tire.
 
I've owned several sets of Destinys and have been pleased every time. My 97 currently has a set of new Pirelli P4s and I like that tire too. It will be interesting to see if the Pirelli lasts as long as the Destiny.
 
I had the Traction T/A, it did not last very long and traction wasn't any better then the Goodyear Viva Tourings they replaced.
 
If I were to judge Michelin based on the OEM tires alone, I'd be unimpressed, but not thoroughly put off either. True for any OEM tire. But I do notice that Michelin seems to be one of the brands with OEM tires that are less mediocre on average than some brands.
 
Originally Posted By: weebl
But I do notice that Michelin seems to be one of the brands with OEM tires that are less mediocre on average than some brands.


Kinda like being the tallest pygmy.
 
Originally Posted By: CapriRacer
Originally Posted By: weebl
......less mediocre.....


LOL


I do recognize that OEM spec'd tires take into account completely different variables which a car manufacturer desires (i.e. CAFE), versus what a motorist may desire. Unfortunately, OEM specs contribute to a perceived mediocre tire to a motorist (though they probably meet car manufacturer performance specs perfectly).
 
Originally Posted By: FZ1
Different Strokes. Over rated by Tire rack surveys. Average handling. Very Noisy at highway speeds. Low/average mpg. Harsh over potholes. As experienced on my,admittedly,harsh riding,02 Honda Accord V6. I'm sure they would be less objectional on softer/quieter riding cars.


I just found out this tire is an option for my smaller hatchback Civic. I'm trying to decide between it and the Kumho KR21s.

It's like, what other options at 175/70R13 do I have?
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With the deal, I can get a set of 4 installed for about $310 after rebate.
 
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