My last Michelin LTS M/S 2 went 22,640.
Over 7 years- they had some tread left but traction was down and they were hard as rocks.
There must be a dozen different Wrangler tires - which one did he have?
Michelin Defender LTX MS/2 or Continental terrain HT?
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Over 7 years- they had some tread left but traction was down and they were hard as rocks.
There must be a dozen different Wrangler tires - which one did he have?
I don't know which ones he had.
probably more than a dozen wrangler models
even without counting the OE versions.
TireRack has a pretty good video in which they like the Continental best, overall, of all the similar tires they tested.
https://www.tirerack.com/videos/video_modalbox.jsp?video=1097
Ed
https://www.tirerack.com/videos/video_modalbox.jsp?video=1097
Ed
2014 Ram 1500 4WD
I've had both, Michelins previously and the Continentals currently. I can't speak to the ultimate traction performance as both have performed the same when subjected to my driving conditions. I was very pleased with the Michelins and replaced them at 60K and 6 years. They would have gone another 5-10K, but I changed them as it was going into winter. No cracking issues at all.
The Continentals have a bit softer ride and are a bit quieter than the Michelins. They are soft on center and lack the "locked on track" feel of the Michelins. This was mentioned in several reviews that I read, and Paulswagelock mentions the same in this thread. I wish I had stayed with the Michelins.
If your primary goal is a smooth, quiet ride, go with the Continentals. If you value driving dynamics, go with the Michelins.
Ed
Goodyear Wrangler Steadfast HT.
I replaced the OE Michelin LTX MS2 with the Goodyear and couldn't be happier.
I replaced the OE Michelin LTX MS2 with the Goodyear and couldn't be happier.
I can’t remember the last time I saw a standard reference tire for sale. Or a standard reference car. Or a standard reference road. Which is why the manufacturer is ultimately given latitude in this rating system that hasn’t been relevant in more than 35 years.
I think Steadfast HT are a notch above the Workhorse HT.
The think I like is the look - they almost look like a AT tire from the side. But so smooth.
It is not fair to compare a 7 year old Michelin to a new anything - but the ride quality of the GY was so much better my wife even noticed it.
One thing the reviews on snow the Workhorse HT (Steadfast too IIRC) did not do that great - I am in Houston it rarely snows and if I does I don't care, all those years in Minnesota taught me to stay home if the roads are covered in snow unless you don't have any choice.
If I like in snow country and did not use snow tires I would have picked something else.
I do believe the Continental is an excellent tire that is a true contender for The Michelin Defender. But what keeps aggressively drawing me back to the Michelin’s is the incredible performance in the rain and winter conditions.
I am by no means advocating for the Michelin Defender LTX M/S 2’s as a substitute for a replacement for a winter tire.
However the performance has been incredible in those conditions for every generation of these tire when driven reasonably. NO all terrain has ever given the Michelin’s a run for it’s money for on road light to moderate ice/snow conditions in my experience (Nittos/BfGoodrich’s/Goodyear’s).
Whether you hate Michelin or not or anything in between it’s remarkable how that tire performs across the board IMHO..
I am by no means advocating for the Michelin Defender LTX M/S 2’s as a substitute for a replacement for a winter tire.
However the performance has been incredible in those conditions for every generation of these tire when driven reasonably. NO all terrain has ever given the Michelin’s a run for it’s money for on road light to moderate ice/snow conditions in my experience (Nittos/BfGoodrich’s/Goodyear’s).
Whether you hate Michelin or not or anything in between it’s remarkable how that tire performs across the board IMHO..
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This ^^^
And we haven't even discussed the Cross Climates. Which are even better in winter (but marginally louder on the dry).
We very rarely get snow here.
I have never seen CC2 tires on a truck. Do they make a CC L/T?
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Never thought much about it. In my mind every tire is made for every car but you're probably right.
Generally it’s the Agilis Cross Climate model in LT sizes/ratings…which is also excellent.
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Wow, I have always got at least 45k to 50k miles on every set of those Michelins...I have over 50k on the Continental HT right now...and still well above the wear bars. I have over 400k miles on my Tundra.
I have 68,800 miles on my 2007 Tahoe.
Why I think Michelin could be worth the cost if you drive thousands of miles per year.
But then not worth the extra if you are only driving 5-6 thousand miles per year.
The “best” answer to what are the best tires changes based on what you will be doing with them.
Yet people mostly don’t look at it like this.
The Tahoe came with OEM Bridgestone after 20k they still looked new but had poor wet traction. I put LTX M/S on and they aged out - still tons of tread but all covered it cracks. I went back with the same tire. 7 years and not even 23k they looked tired and worn.
I decided to look around and take a shot with something else. So far glad I did.
Ok. So I drive a ‘24 Tacoma which in its hybrid form is 5300 lbs. I have a long commute, so NVH is important to me. The 265-65-18 p-metrics ride well at around 39-40 PSI as it stands right now.
The specs of the Agilis Cross Climate look about ideal for what I do. It’s got the tread of a mild AT (I do go off pavement, not for sport but occassional utility). I usually gravitate towards mild ATs with good wet traction and a smooth ride. I’m nervous about spending money on something I’d regret. What are your thoughts about using this tire on a 5000lb pickup?
