I know, Michelin LTX M&S, but …

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I’ve torn some rubber out of the oem Michelin Primacy’s on the Tacoma, they don’t like going off road, but they continue to commute well. I start thinking of tires. It’s not time yet, but the primacy’s are soft on the road at speed.

I’ve enjoyed the heavier cooper tire feel, but those cupped early in life.

My favorite has been the TerrainContact AT, but both sets started driving “off center” at half tread.

Yokohama G015 rolled smoother, but were oddly unpredictable in the rain

I realize that just like everyone else says, the LTX M&S2 is what old guys should move to, but I can’t.

Does anyone else like to try new things just to see if there’s something better?

TerrainContact AT still has a vote. Mickey Thompson Baja Boss gets solid forum reviews for rain and surprisingly quiet, and certainly trail use. Outpost nAT is manufactured in TN and Nokian seems to have a very strong reputation. I’ll most likely stay stock tire size. Commute speed is 45-60 most of the way, occassional 65-75

Rain traction and keeping noise moderated are priorities, esp rain traction. I know - that knocks 3/4 of the ATs off the list.
 
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Goodyear Wrangler All-terrain Adventure w Kevlar as they are non aggressive (good for on road) but still rugged for off road. They were OEM tires on my buddy’s 2016 Tacoma and he really liked them.
 
I’ve torn some rubber out of the oem Michelin Primacy’s on the Tacoma, they don’t like going off road, but they continue to commute well. I start thinking of tires. It’s not time yet, but the primacy’s are soft on the road at speed.

I’ve enjoyed the heavier cooper tire feel, but those cupped early in life.

My favorite has been the TerrainContact AT, but both sets started driving “off center” at half tread.

Yokohama G015 rolled smoother, but were oddly unpredictable in the rain

I realize that just like everyone else says, the LTX M&S2 is what old guys should move to, but I can’t.

Does anyone else like to try new things just to see if there’s something better?

TerrainContact AT still has a vote. Mickey Thompson Baja Boss gets solid forum reviews for rain and surprisingly quiet, and certainly trail use. Outpost nAT is manufactured in TN and Nokian seems to have a very strong reputation. I’ll most likely stay stock tire size. Commute speed is 45-60 most of the way, occassional 65-75

Rain traction and keeping noise moderated are priorities, esp rain traction. I know - that knocks 3/4 of the ATs off the list.
Try out the Outpost APT.
 
I’ve run Hankook Dynapro AT and I swear by them. Good in the rain. Snow rated and they’re great in it. Gravel roads. Two tracks. Fairly quiet on the highway. I keep them rotated and they last. My brother runs them on his Tahoe and loves them, buddy ran them on his 3/4 ton loved them. When I bought this truck they had the wildpeaks everyone loves, and sample of 1 but they were terrible in wet conditions, so I got rid of them and went back to the Dynapros.
 
I had Cooper AT3 and now Defender. Both are great. Cupping sounds like under inflation.
 
I’ve torn some rubber out of the oem Michelin Primacy’s on the Tacoma, they don’t like going off road, but they continue to commute well. I start thinking of tires. It’s not time yet, but the primacy’s are soft on the road at speed.

I’ve enjoyed the heavier cooper tire feel, but those cupped early in life.

My favorite has been the TerrainContact AT, but both sets started driving “off center” at half tread.

Yokohama G015 rolled smoother, but were oddly unpredictable in the rain

I realize that just like everyone else says, the LTX M&S2 is what old guys should move to, but I can’t.

Does anyone else like to try new things just to see if there’s something better?

TerrainContact AT still has a vote. Mickey Thompson Baja Boss gets solid forum reviews for rain and surprisingly quiet, and certainly trail use. Outpost nAT is manufactured in TN and Nokian seems to have a very strong reputation. I’ll most likely stay stock tire size. Commute speed is 45-60 most of the way, occassional 65-75

Rain traction and keeping noise moderated are priorities, esp rain traction. I know - that knocks 3/4 of the ATs off the list.
I know you don't want this answer, but Michelin or Continental.
Check Bridgestone Ascent
Pirelli?
 
I’ve run Hankook Dynapro AT and I swear by them. Good in the rain. Snow rated and they’re great in it. Gravel roads. Two tracks. Fairly quiet on the highway. I keep them rotated and they last. My brother runs them on his Tahoe and loves them, buddy ran them on his 3/4 ton loved them. When I bought this truck they had the wildpeaks everyone loves, and sample of 1 but they were terrible in wet conditions, so I got rid of them and went back to the Dynapros.
These for sure!!
 
Cooper Road +Trail got good Tire Rack reviews. The ones on my father in laws Renegade are not loud, ride nice, did pretty decent in snow. It’s mostly around town at normal speed so no higher speeds evaluation.

The Falken Wildpeak AT Trail did well for even wear on his. Pirelli Scorpion AT did poor for odd noisy wear.

I prefer Michelin LTX but those are others I have at least limited experience with.
 
Unfortunately I spent an ungodly amount on tires the last six months.

I went with the Nitto Terra Grappler G3 this past July because of their ratings on Tirerack and they were the lightest P285/70R17. They handled pretty good in the dry and held their own in the rain. Definitely noisier than the stock Michelin AT2’s in P275/65R18 but nothing crazy.

We had a few snow storms where I live and in one of the first ones I had to go out for something. Those tires didn’t perform well at all. My Tundra was all over the place, the traction control was constantly going off and I am a very conservative driver. Additionally they have the Three Peak rating. They did look cool as hell!

Being that the Tundra is my family car I had to address this. I was down to the Michelin LTX M/S2 and the Continental Terrain Contact HT. I went with the Michelin…the overall performance is much better and significantly better in winter conditions. And my traction control was not going haywire. Very different driving experience, the later being highly preferred.

Moral of the story…buy a tire for performance not looks. Been down this rabbit hole far too long many times to be truthful.
 
I’ve torn some rubber out of the oem Michelin Primacy’s on the Tacoma, they don’t like going off road, but they continue to commute well. I start thinking of tires. It’s not time yet, but the primacy’s are soft on the road at speed.

I’ve enjoyed the heavier cooper tire feel, but those cupped early in life.

My favorite has been the TerrainContact AT, but both sets started driving “off center” at half tread.

Yokohama G015 rolled smoother, but were oddly unpredictable in the rain

I realize that just like everyone else says, the LTX M&S2 is what old guys should move to, but I can’t.

Does anyone else like to try new things just to see if there’s something better?

TerrainContact AT still has a vote. Mickey Thompson Baja Boss gets solid forum reviews for rain and surprisingly quiet, and certainly trail use. Outpost nAT is manufactured in TN and Nokian seems to have a very strong reputation. I’ll most likely stay stock tire size. Commute speed is 45-60 most of the way, occassional 65-75

Rain traction and keeping noise moderated are priorities, esp rain traction. I know - that knocks 3/4 of the ATs off the list.
I also live in the southeast. To me, rain/wet performance is always near the top of the list. Continental ATs have excellent wet performance and are quiet. They also tend to be longlasting. I have the Cooper R&Ts on my Jeep now and they also are quite good in the wet, though not quite as quiet as the Contis. They do seem to be pretty good in the snow, which we have been blessed with recently in Georgia! I also recently put Nokian nATs on my F250 and am pretty happy with them so far. You don't read as much about them, but seem to generally receive good reviews and Discount Tire gave a great deal on them.
 
Too little information on your Tacoma.
Year and model?
4WD or 2WD?
Original Tire Size and rating?
2024. AWD. Oem size of 265/65 r18. I’ve added about 600 pounds to it and a 5/8” rear spring spacer to restore oem height, almost.
 
2024. AWD. Oem size of 265/65 r18. I’ve added about 600 pounds to it and a 5/8” rear spring spacer to restore oem height, almost.
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Cooper Road +Trail got good Tire Rack reviews. The ones on my father in laws Renegade are not loud, ride nice, did pretty decent in snow. It’s mostly around town at normal speed so no higher speeds evaluation.

The Falken Wildpeak AT Trail did well for even wear on his. Pirelli Scorpion AT did poor for odd noisy wear.

I prefer Michelin LTX but those are others I have at least limited experience with.
I can back that up, have the Cooper R&T on the '13 FJ and they are great on road and off, with the exception of deep mud.
 
Unfortunately I spent an ungodly amount on tires the last six months.

I went with the Nitto Terra Grappler G3 this past July because of their ratings on Tirerack and they were the lightest P285/70R17. They handled pretty good in the dry and held their own in the rain. Definitely noisier than the stock Michelin AT2’s in P275/65R18 but nothing crazy.

We had a few snow storms where I live and in one of the first ones I had to go out for something. Those tires didn’t perform well at all. My Tundra was all over the place, the traction control was constantly going off and I am a very conservative driver. Additionally they have the Three Peak rating. They did look cool as hell!

Being that the Tundra is my family car I had to address this. I was down to the Michelin LTX M/S2 and the Continental Terrain Contact HT. I went with the Michelin…the overall performance is much better and significantly better in winter conditions. And my traction control was not going haywire. Very different driving experience, the later being highly preferred.

Moral of the story…buy a tire for performance not looks. Been down this rabbit hole far too long many times to be truthful.
It's better than ??
 
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