I know, Michelin LTX M&S, but …

[Donald]

I'd go
Continental HT? or michelin defender ltx ms/2

Why HT vs AT?

 

[The Critic]

I've had a lot of uniformity issues with aftermarket Continental tires. The set of TrueContact 54's I just installed onto my parents' Altima have a horrendous shake at higher speeds that has not been cured with normal balancing. Traction is pretty good though.

 

[Rand]

Why HT vs AT?

He seems to value, Noise, Driving feel/handling, and wet traction.

 

[cheech279]

I only drive my Ridgeline 4,000-5,000 miles a year, so I won't buy expensive tires just to see them age out in 6-7 years. I'm thinking of Laufenn XFit AT (by Hankook) or GT Radial Adventuro ATX for my next set in the spring.

 

[Rand]

I've had a lot of uniformity issues with aftermarket Continental tires. The set of TrueContact 54's I just installed onto my parents' Altima have a horrendous shake at higher speeds that has not been cured with normal balancing. Traction is pretty good though.

I had a set of terrain contact AT's that wobbled on my 2019 cherokee.

The dws06+ on the 24 outback have been excellent.

 

[meep]

He seems to value, Noise, Driving feel/handling, and wet traction.

With some crossover into mild off-road. Double track or literally just scrambling up a hillside. I’ve got a few gouges from wheelspin in the current Michelins over dirt/rock climbs, and have done well with mild A/Ts in general use. The Revo2 was a great tire; wish they hadn’t moved away from that design - it checked all of the boxes nicely.

Conti AT I can attest to structure issues in both sets I’ve owned, but their rain/noise/handling before they deteriorated was superb. Conti seems to have lateral runout observations in one particular installer forum I found a while back. Still, I made it through 2 sets without much complaint. They were quieter IME than Michelin. It looks like Michelin, Yokohama and Nitto tend to get the most consistent praise for minimal weights for balancing, with Nokians being everywhere in between (lots of weight in some lots, nearly none in others). I haven’t considered the Michelin AT, previously they had some wet road complaints and the sidewalls look soft in person.

Handling is important enough that I’ll stay oem sized.

 

[Delta]

Thank you - real world feedback is always the most valuable

The Cooper R+T is indeed a good budget tire, it's what I have on my Tacoma. I do notice at 7,000 miles in some slight wear and a little noise now, but not too much. It's tough to tell rain traction as you know these trucks are light in the rear. Snow traction has been really good for what they are, but not locked in 4WD the rear end is pretty happy to come around if you're not careful. But, that's trucks in general. I do notice siping does not go all the way through the tread so 1/2 tread might start getting iffy. But for an under $1K set mounted, balanced, and taxed, I'd buy them again.

 

[edyvw]

The Cooper R+T is indeed a good budget tire, it's what I have on my Tacoma. I do notice at 7,000 miles in some slight wear and a little noise now, but not too much. It's tough to tell rain traction as you know these trucks are light in the rear. Snow traction has been really good for what they are, but not locked in 4WD the rear end is pretty happy to come around if you're not careful. But, that's trucks in general. I do notice siping does not go all the way through the tread so 1/2 tread might start getting iffy. But for an under $1K set mounted, balanced, and taxed, I'd buy them again.

Price difference between Michelin Defender LTX M/S2 and Cooper R+T for my Sequoia is $20 per tire.

 

[thastinger]

I’ve torn some rubber out of the oem Michelin Primacy’s on the Tacoma, they don’t like going off road, but they continue to commute well. I start thinking of tires. It’s not time yet, but the primacy’s are soft on the road at speed.

I’ve enjoyed the heavier cooper tire feel, but those cupped early in life.

My favorite has been the TerrainContact AT, but both sets started driving “off center” at half tread.

Yokohama G015 rolled smoother, but were oddly unpredictable in the rain

I realize that just like everyone else says, the LTX M&S2 is what old guys should move to, but I can’t.

Does anyone else like to try new things just to see if there’s something better?

TerrainContact AT still has a vote. Mickey Thompson Baja Boss gets solid forum reviews for rain and surprisingly quiet, and certainly trail use. Outpost nAT is manufactured in TN and Nokian seems to have a very strong reputation. I’ll most likely stay stock tire size. Commute speed is 45-60 most of the way, occassional 65-75

Rain traction and keeping noise moderated are priorities, esp rain traction. I know - that knocks 3/4 of the ATs off the list.

The Latitudes that came on my Wife's Armada were shot at 28K, always rotated and balances. They wore evenly, just tread was gone early. I replaced them with Nexen Rodian AT Pro Ra8 tires, excellent tires for rain and snow and lasted 75K, we liked them so much we bought another set. They are very quiet, no road noise at all that I can detect and stay that way throughout the tread life.

 

[Delta]

Price difference between Michelin Defender LTX M/S2 and Cooper R+T for my Sequoia is $20 per tire.

Depends on the size I recon. The difference for my truck is $74 a tire.

 

[edyvw]

Depends on the size I recon. The difference for my truck is $74 a tire.

True. Demand too.

 

[HoosierJeeper]

I’ve torn some rubber out of the oem Michelin Primacy’s on the Tacoma, they don’t like going off road, but they continue to commute well. I start thinking of tires. It’s not time yet, but the primacy’s are soft on the road at speed.

I’ve enjoyed the heavier cooper tire feel, but those cupped early in life.

My favorite has been the TerrainContact AT, but both sets started driving “off center” at half tread.

Yokohama G015 rolled smoother, but were oddly unpredictable in the rain

I realize that just like everyone else says, the LTX M&S2 is what old guys should move to, but I can’t.

Does anyone else like to try new things just to see if there’s something better?

TerrainContact AT still has a vote. Mickey Thompson Baja Boss gets solid forum reviews for rain and surprisingly quiet, and certainly trail use. Outpost nAT is manufactured in TN and Nokian seems to have a very strong reputation. I’ll most likely stay stock tire size. Commute speed is 45-60 most of the way, occassional 65-75

Rain traction and keeping noise moderated are priorities, esp rain traction. I know - that knocks 3/4 of the ATs off the list.

Big fan of Nitto/Toyo. Have had 3 sets of the Toyo Open Country AT3s and they were always quiet and great in all conditions. Have Nitto Recon Grapplers on my JLU now and love them - more aggressive but don't seem to give up anything on road. Also a fan of the Nokian Outpost ATs on my LR3. Very quiet, excellent in all conditions.