Michelin CrossClimate2 Tires

I don't know, but from the tire track it sure looks like it's on backwards. That would help with braking maybe but would hydroplane easy I would think.
It is correct; the v is pointed down at front of tire:

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I never noticed mileage drop from the OE tires. This on a 2016 Ford Focus. I have been rotating them regularly. They seem to be wearing well. Though I have driven the snot out of them, 98% highway. I believe I'm way over 40K on mine, and they still look fairly meaty. I'll have to check the thread depth. I'll have to keep an eye on the date code as well. I piled on miles on my 300 mile weekly commute. But I retired from that job in September. So miles have dropped drastically.

I might just stay with this tire when I need new again. But depends on the price. I got I believe $100 off at Costco. Also I should have an alternate vehicle with AWD in the near future, which should be used more in the snotty weather. But the Cross Climates are good to have on the Focus just in case they are needed. The tires will pay for themselves, vs sliding into a ditch. Body work is pretty expesive compared to the price difference on a tire upgrade.......
 


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CC2 finally bested by new competitors from Continental, Bridgestone and Pirelli


It is not bested if you want snow performance.

I am disappointed by their budget tire choice. Its like the chose one of the worst one possible.

Like you know it has a C rating, what did you expect?

I don't know how it is in other countries, but in Canada more and more people are choosing Chinese tires.

It looks like Michelin and other tire brands see this and are scared.
 
I like the CC2’s on our Honda. 70,000 km’s (42,000 miles) on them so far, and they are wearing very well. Only have two complaints. They have gotten noisy at below highway speeds (but are ok at over 60 mph). Ice traction isn’t great, other all-season tires that were on this car were better on icy roads. Snow and slush traction is outstanding however.
 
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CC2's grip the road so well that if the vehicle is out of alignment it will not feel like it's going down the road well as far as maintaining centering of steering. But if the vehicle is properly aligned like with a hunter alignment machine that aligns some of the angles to 1/10 of a degree and some others to one one hundredth of a degree, then the vehicle will handle very nicely. In fact, they have a little bit stiffer sidewall which really improves handling when you're turning. But yet the ride is still pretty decent.

So if you put a set of CC2's on and you're not happy with them, think about getting an alignment before you get rid of them because that could be your problem.
 
Put a set of these on the Forester in May of last year.
Did not have any real winter weather to try them out in but they seem pretty good overall.
The Forester is not all that quiet to begin with nor especially economical in its use of fuel, so we haven't noticed any real difference in either.
 
It is not bested if you want snow performance.

I am disappointed by their budget tire choice. Its like the chose one of the worst one possible.

Like you know it has a C rating, what did you expect?

I don't know how it is in other countries, but in Canada more and more people are choosing Chinese tires.

It looks like Michelin and other tire brands see this and are scared.
The Chinese are starting to build some pretty good tires. Lots of people are happy with their venom power xt tires and they are cheaper than the other rugged at tires so they sell good.
 
The Chinese are starting to build some pretty good tires. Lots of people are happy with their venom power xt tires and they are cheaper than the other rugged at tires so they sell good.
Which just goes to prove that the same people that are "rah rah, buy American/Canadian" and then feign lament with respect to job losses and why our manufacturing sectors are basket cases, have a price.

We constantly hear people complain about nothing being made in the West anymore and it being outsourced to China/Mexico/India, but then when presented with products from both locations, buy China to save a few bucks? Pffft, absolutely! It's all talk.

We are completely screwed. China knows this. I'm not the only one out there who sees this.
 
Which just goes to prove that the same people that are "rah rah, buy American/Canadian" and then feign lament with respect to job losses and why our manufacturing sectors are basket cases, have a price.

We constantly hear people complain about nothing being made in the West anymore and it being outsourced to China/Mexico/India, but then when presented with products from both locations, buy China to save a few bucks? Pffft, absolutely! It's all talk.

We are completely screwed. China knows this. I'm not the only one out there who sees this.
On another hand, the only way to catch upside amid all the downside of inequitable global trade is to try to save expenses. I am not sure there’s much alternative choice on a large scale.

The problem, in my eyes, is quality. Products are now often mere replicas of real products.
 
On another hand, the only way to catch upside amid all the downside of inequitable global trade is to try to save expenses. I am not sure there’s much alternative choice on a large scale.

The problem, in my eyes, is quality. Products are now often mere replicas of real products.
You can absolutely still get quality, but you have to pay for it, which is starting to make it somewhat niche in certain segments at this point with respect to the "Walmartization" or perhaps, per a more recent thread "Dollar Generalization" of things.

I fully appreciate that I'm farting against a hurricane of price-driven consumer behaviour that's predicated on consumption, but I make efforts to support Western manufacture of goods wherever possible. My new Michelin snows on the Jeep are made in Nova Scotia, Canada, for example. Tires are one area where we still have plenty of quality options from Western brands, with Western manufacture, but as evidenced by this thread, that doesn't mean the people that say they do, really give a crap about that if they can save a few bucks.
 
You can absolutely still get quality, but you have to pay for it, which is starting to make it somewhat niche in certain segments at this point with respect to the "Walmartization" or perhaps, per a more recent thread "Dollar Generalization" of things.

I fully appreciate that I'm farting against a hurricane of price-driven consumer behaviour that's predicated on consumption, but I make efforts to support Western manufacture of goods wherever possible. My new Michelin snows on the Jeep are made in Nova Scotia, Canada, for example. Tires are one area where we still have plenty of quality options from Western brands, with Western manufacture, but as evidenced by this thread, that doesn't mean the people that say they do, really give a crap about that if they can save a few bucks.
If you can get 2 sets of Chinese tires that have ok performance and last 40k for the same price as one set of michelins that last 60k, you save $ per mile buying the cheap tires. Most people don't care about traction as long as they aren't horrible.
 
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