Was out this morning on 7"unplowed snow in my forester when nothing was running except 1 jeep and 3 picvkups. Zero AWD drives. I had zero problems in my '18 Forester XT the tires are amazing.
Michelin CrossClimate2 Tires
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while we haven't had nearly that much snow, when driving through what we have had, there are a few Turns I know for sure my old Tires (Cooper CS5 Ultra) would have fishtailed on, these CC2's went steady and true. Just right around the turn, no slip at all.
Agreed. Have them on my CX-5 for the last 5 years. I still put X-Ice's on for winter, but have driven in those first-snows several times.
I have these on my Rav4 and they are phenomenal. They did great in the snow this morning. Well worth the little extra hum and slight decrease in MPG’s. I would pick these up in a heartbeat if the made them in a P rated stock size for my Tundra. A set is going on my wife’s car in the spring.
I have the first generation of the cross climate on my daughter's college car but only install them in the winter and zero problems treading through the snow in a front wheel drive Elantra
I just found out about the 3 peak tires like the cross climates after buying tires for my daughter's car. This was about 4 years ago? I was a little perturbed I was not aware of the 3 peak tires.
I put the cross climates on my 16 Ford Focus FWD. I can't get up our steep private road in snow/ice. But they seem to do well otherwise.
I put the cross climates on my 16 Ford Focus FWD. I can't get up our steep private road in snow/ice. But they seem to do well otherwise.
The original were Nokian way back and somewhat hard to acquire (now everywhere). I have been buying them since 1999 for New England then on Civic , Subaru , Acura etc.
I am glad bigger players went into game as more choices.
Are saying the Nokian tire you bought was a 3 peak tire back in 1999?
Which was basically a performance winter tire from Europe. And they were bad compared to the competition in that performance class. Others just decided not to bring tires like that to NA market.
Yes I believe it was called Nokian WR or NRW. My wife had them installed on her 96 Civic in 2002 - 2005 and had no issue commuting in 40 miles to medical job in any conditions.
Did not know
Did not know 3 peak went that far back in the US?
I don't recall it having a 3 peak listing per se. Nokian just had them listed as All Weather options back then iirc.
A user review/comparison back 24 years ago.
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Went back to 1999 in Canada and the US. Adopted in Europe around 2012.
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I have them on my EV6 GT, and the only thing that made me nervous was glare ice on chip n seal. Looked like the road was just wet. Up hill through curves. All 4 tires churning for about 1/4 mile and the electronic wizardry making sure it went where I pointed it.
Other scary incident was around 32f we had about 2" of wet, heavy snow. The kind that when you drive over it, it gets kinda translucent and absurdly slick. My drive way is a 27% grade, and going down that on CC2s in my GT was a bit nerve-racking. After safely doing so (you must turn at the end...or into a pit you go), I looked back up it. Looks like it dragged the tires a hair coming down, but I regulated my speed without it increasing, so that's a win. That driveway is so steep that if you park your car on it mid-way-up, and set E-brake and put the vehicle in Park, I can literally 1-handed shove your car down my driveway. I remember doing that a while back to prove a point about how steep it was since it doesn't show up well in pictures, angles and all. And these CC2's controlled a 5000# vehicle on 255/40/21's on wet, heavy snow, descending. I was impress!
Other scary incident was around 32f we had about 2" of wet, heavy snow. The kind that when you drive over it, it gets kinda translucent and absurdly slick. My drive way is a 27% grade, and going down that on CC2s in my GT was a bit nerve-racking. After safely doing so (you must turn at the end...or into a pit you go), I looked back up it. Looks like it dragged the tires a hair coming down, but I regulated my speed without it increasing, so that's a win. That driveway is so steep that if you park your car on it mid-way-up, and set E-brake and put the vehicle in Park, I can literally 1-handed shove your car down my driveway. I remember doing that a while back to prove a point about how steep it was since it doesn't show up well in pictures, angles and all. And these CC2's controlled a 5000# vehicle on 255/40/21's on wet, heavy snow, descending. I was impress!
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Over 22k miles (in about 3 years) on a set of these and still have around 7/32" left on all 4 corners, so on par for the course for the 60k mile rating. Did well in cold weather and light snow (past few winters where I used to live unexpectedly had very little snow), did well in the wet, and did fine in the dry.
No noticeable noise changes, except for the occasional sounds/clicks due to this tread pattern and spacing being a pebble magnet.
No noticeable fuel mileage change, was able to highway-only average 26-27mpg on my car (which was same was about the same as my previous Dunlops and Pilot Sport AS3+, and meets the EPA rating) on a cannonball/cross-country move, with an additional 1k lbs in the backseat and trunk. No issues whatsoever, and that is with a Costco patch and plug on one of the tires within the first 3k miles.
Overall, a great tire if you live in a wintry/snowy climate and only have one set of wheels and tires. In this scenario, it's definitely a better choice to get an "All-Weather" tire rather than an "All-Season." That being said, if I knew I'd end up moving to somewhere with little to no chance of snow, I would've just stuck with UHP All Seasons and gone with the Pilot Sport AS4.
No noticeable noise changes, except for the occasional sounds/clicks due to this tread pattern and spacing being a pebble magnet.
No noticeable fuel mileage change, was able to highway-only average 26-27mpg on my car (which was same was about the same as my previous Dunlops and Pilot Sport AS3+, and meets the EPA rating) on a cannonball/cross-country move, with an additional 1k lbs in the backseat and trunk. No issues whatsoever, and that is with a Costco patch and plug on one of the tires within the first 3k miles.
Overall, a great tire if you live in a wintry/snowy climate and only have one set of wheels and tires. In this scenario, it's definitely a better choice to get an "All-Weather" tire rather than an "All-Season." That being said, if I knew I'd end up moving to somewhere with little to no chance of snow, I would've just stuck with UHP All Seasons and gone with the Pilot Sport AS4.
