Mechanic recommended MMO

[fdcg27]

Has your mechanic been around for a while?
Has he recommended MMO to other customers with no bad results?
I'd have a conversation with him about MMO use.
My guess is that he's recommended it before and that those using it have had good, or at least not bad, results.
I've never used MMO in either the fuel or the oil of any vehicle.
However, there are those on this site who swear by it and I've never seen anyone post anything about MMO doing any harm.
If you have a noise linked to possible contamination, like a sticking lifter, give MMO a try and see what happens.
It may work. If it doesn't, you aren't out very much, and you'll at least have done no harm.

 

[NHGUY]

Would thin out the oil's additive pack,just like adding Lucas.I wouldnt do it unless there was a sticky lifter or similar "dirty" condition.

 

[carwreck]

Originally Posted By: EType
Hello BITOG!

This board is a fantastic resource and I hope you can give me some advice on MMO.

Ever since my mechanic recommended MMO, I have been reading threads here and am sorry to say I am still confused...

Originally Posted By: Hollow
You still haven't answered the important questions being asked.

WHAT VEHICLE/ENGINE/ETC?

WHY WAS MMO RECOMMENDED?

The OP has not provided his vehicle. I will guess that:
1. The OP has an older vehicle, such as a VW or Corvair with a Judson Blower. The Judson uses a 'Marvel Mystery Oil' vacuum oiler to reduce friction, heat and wear.
2. The OP also has MMO oiler.
It would therefore be correct for the mechanic to recommended MMO for the MMO oiler.

http://www.corvaircorsa.com/miller01.html

http://www.corvairforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=807
http://vwjudsonregister.tripod.com/buyandsellpage.htm

 

[LeakySeals]

The mechanic is right, I've been using MMO off and on for 30 years for the same reasons. Most mechanics would tell you that the only answer is a mechanical fix so they can take your money. Not this mechanic, he recommended a $3 pint of MMO to see if that would fix it before turning a wrench. Stay with that guy, he's a keeper!

 

[Swissdieselfan]

The real funny thing is that the majority of folks selling snake oils never use them!

I've cleaned up quite a number of engines and never had to use more than idle flush. Many German auto engineers have also cleaned up sludged out motors using idle only flushes, although allowing a vehicle to leave a service facility with a non approved lubricant invalidates their third party insurance. The insurance folks are fairly clued up about warranty risk factors.

Older engines were not built to the same tollerance as modern ones and their oil requirements were different in additive terms, in fact they would run fairly well on straight oils with no additives (Apart from those with very high cam loadings). Modern engines using thin 20 grades are very different as they need a precise balance of additives included in an oil and using any kind of drive around flush is going to be bad news in engine wear terms, even without a turbo.

The engine oil industry and car manufacturers have moved ahead in technical terms, but the snake oil companies that have been selling cheap tractor sludge cleaners have not, only their marketing has developed, which is why they still can't get even one OEM recommendation.

 

[Mystic]

What are you saying? The majority of folks selling 'snake oils' never use them?' Where is your evidence for that? I take it you are calling MMO ('moo oil' as you call it) snake oil. So you have proof that the people selling MMO have never used it? And you have some sort of proof I suppose that the people at Kano Labs have never used Kreen?

We already know what your message is. We know that it is read the owner's manual, use high quality motor oils, and don't use any engine cleaners or oil supplements except for whatever engine flushes you think are acceptable. You should put this message in quotes and just post it in all of your replies. It will save you a lot of typing.

If you don't mind Swissdieselfan I would like to hear about the experiences of people who have tried various engine cleaners and oil supplements. I read the owner's manual for my car whenever I buy a new car.

 

[EType]

Well it sounds like I have nothing to lose by trying MMO. A lot of people recommending it seem to be long time posters.

I will update you as soon as I can.

 

[Swissdieselfan]

There is a big difference between an idle only flush and a drive around scourer, I'm only against the scourers, also for some reason snake oil companies seem to specialise in scourers when real engine oil companies prefer to produce idle flush additives, although some like LM do sit on the fence.

 

[Swissdieselfan]

Originally Posted By: EType
Well it sounds like I have nothing to lose by trying MMO. A lot of people recommending it seem to be long time posters.

I will update you as soon as I can.


If you have an E type it's a good idea to ask on their UK forum for advice, they probably use Castrol idle flush that is listed in their classic oils section. If you ask questions here about lubricants or additives all you get is the Mobil 1 and Moo oil sales team reply.

 

[LeakySeals]

skyship II ?

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: Swissdieselfan
The real funny thing is that the majority of folks selling snake oils never use them!



The same people bashing them haven't used them either. All these success stories were made up.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
skyship II ?


I think its Skyship III. We have two recent reincarnates this past week. Skyship does nothing to hide it though.

 

[EType]

Maybe I will go to a specialist forum. It seems my question resulted in a lot of strong feelings which certainly was not my intention.

I did not expect to hear replies about following other posters and not being believed after seeing a UFO!

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: EType
Maybe I will go to a specialist forum. It seems my question resulted in a lot of strong feelings which certainly was not my intention.

I did not expect to hear replies about following other posters and ufos!


Go to the MMO forum and ask there then. It's a real hot topic here.

 

[morris]

its amazing what people say when they dont know what they are talking about.

 

[EType]

I was just directed to this page by a friend of mine.

Have any of you read it before?

www.carbibles.com/snakeoil.html

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: EType
I was just directed to this page by a friend of mine.

Have any of you read it before?

www.carbibles.com/snakeoil.html


Show it to your mechanic and see what he tells you.

 

[morris]

HAY DON. please post the report you tout so much. let every one read it for them selves. i did and it has some problems with accuracy. my idea is EVERY ONE HAS AN AX TO GRIND.

 

[Mystic]

EType, I don't know anything about you and you have just barely come to this website. Sorry if this website has been a disappointment to you.

There are snake oils. I would say that most oil supplements and engine cleaners fall into that area. But I am an old guy (61) and in my lifetime I have experienced both good and bad products for my cars.

According to some any oil supplement or engine cleaner is a snake oil. A rip-off. A scam. According to others they know about some products that work.

One of the guys I respect here a lot is demarpaint. I have enjoyed several private messages with him and although I have never met the guy I think he is smart, honest, and straight forward. He has used Marvel Mystery Oil for some 40 years. Marvel Mystery Oil itself has been around since 1923. I have not used MMO myself all that much but I believe demarpaint when he says he knows the product works. I have respect for the guy and he certainly has the experience with MMO. There are several other people here who have reported they had good results with MMO.

Now what you do with your own car is your business. You don't have to use MMO. You can tell your mechanic you don't want to use it. I don't know what problems you are having with your car but whatever problems you are having your mechanic should be able to fix those problems if he is a good mechanic. You did not say I don't think why your mechanic recommended using MMO.

Some of the best advice for a new car owner is to read the owner's manual, use high quality motor oil changed at reasonable intervals, have all maintenance done, and don't use any oil supplements or engine cleaners. Now, I am not trying to sound like a certain member here but that is good advice for most people. But some of use with a lot of experience with cars and engines over the years have discovered a few products that seem to work.

So you can be safe and not use anything that is not recommended in the owner's manual. Or you can try some stuff that a lot of people here have had good experience with. It is up to you.

Again, sorry if your time at this website has been a disappointment to you.

 

[EType]

I think I will ask him to advise me how much I should use. It seems MMO is a solvent that can strip protection that oil is providing. Now I see why manufacturers and oil companies say not to use it.