Meaty Nutrients Hold The Keys To Happiness

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I personally don't do soy. It's not a good food for my blood type. If I did, it would be only non GMO and organic, and only fermented soy as in tofu, tempeh, and miso.

They say soy is a big anti-thyroid food [goitrogen] and I don't think I need any of that.
 
Originally Posted By: asiancivicmaniac
What study is he citing? Not citing a source is as good as talking out of your behind. Also, what's the directionality of the findings?


I have no idea. I posted a link to the article.

I've a blood type O+ and a meat eater. I feel best on meat, so I tend to believe articles written by fellow carnivores.
 
Originally Posted By: Lurch
Originally Posted By: asiancivicmaniac
What study is he citing? Not citing a source is as good as talking out of your behind. Also, what's the directionality of the findings?


I have no idea. I posted a link to the article.

I've a blood type O+ and a meat eater. I feel best on meat, so I tend to believe articles written by fellow carnivores.


My point is, he's making statements with no empirical evidence to back them up so they're as good as bull ****. I went to the article and there was no citations there. Also, after the lightbulb article you linked I don't think I will take this guy seriously for any scientific advice, MD or not.
 
Originally Posted By: Lurch
What kind of evidence were you looking to find?


Scientific evidence. Such as "according to so-and-so from the university of eye-m-not-b-pooping from the journal of i've-been-peer-reviewed that (insert claim here)".
 
For me that's the issue with these articles. I don't oppose the message or the concern, but why do these authors have to resort to overblown sales pitches to publicize this? The fact that they are not using the established standards for writing, citing, and disambiguating their research is what's worrying.
 
Originally Posted By: Lurch
What kind of evidence were you looking to find?


The healthcare and medical field builds their knowledge incrementally. it is all based on evidence acquired through past experience and research and there is a heavy use of statistical methods. If you read a medical article, you will probably see about 20 references per page to prior studies and findings. it's a standard method to put your ducks in a row and be taken seriously in the field. There are game changing papers but these are based on research and the methodologies are well documents.

Writing an article without a single source or reference is basically [censored].
 
Originally Posted By: CivicFan
Originally Posted By: Lurch
What kind of evidence were you looking to find?


The healthcare and medical field builds their knowledge incrementally. it is all based on evidence acquired through past experience and research and there is a heavy use of statistical methods. If you read a medical article, you will probably see about 20 references per page to prior studies and findings. it's a standard method to put your ducks in a row and be taken seriously in the field. There are game changing papers but these are based on research and the methodologies are well documents.

Writing an article without a single source or reference is basically [censored].


Here is one example of a well written paper that I have been studying this week. It's about the prevention of HAI or hospital acquired infections. scroll down to the end of each chapter to see the references used in the study.

http://www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/whocdscsreph200212.pdf
 
Dr Douglass is a non conventional holistic MD. Unlike most MDs, he believes in prevention vs meds to treat symptoms. I tend to listen to prevention MDs even if they don't list references. His info may not mean a lot to some of you but it means plenty to me.
 
For the conventional thinkers who believe the so called 'referenced' articles, remember that for DECADES the popular well studied info was to avoid fats above all else. You weren't even supposed to eat eggs.

This led to the wonderful Statin drugs so many are put on for life. This is where the money is for the BIG Pharma people. Real clinical studies (paid for by the makers of the drugs) proved it works!

Now read up on the side effects. Plus a high fat diet is actually good for some of us. No one diet is great for everyone, and no 'study' financed by the people with a financial interest in the result proves anything beyond a reasonable doubt!

So feel free to use your old,well studied, referenced info. And follow it if you like.

But many of us are different and may not join you. That doesn't make us whackos. Be glad we're not all mindlessly walking in lock step.
 
Originally Posted By: asiancivicmaniac
Originally Posted By: Lurch
What kind of evidence were you looking to find?


Scientific evidence. Such as "according to so-and-so from the university of eye-m-not-b-pooping from the journal of i've-been-peer-reviewed that (insert claim here)".


Journal articles are not all that they are cracked up to be a lot of times especially when it has to do with health, food, and medicine. Take a look at drug company Wyeth getting busted for years of padding "prestigious" Journals with articles paid to give a predisposed outlook.
http://www.naturalnews.com/029160_medical_journals_ghostwriters.html
 
Originally Posted By: Lurch
Originally Posted By: asiancivicmaniac
What study is he citing? Not citing a source is as good as talking out of your behind. Also, what's the directionality of the findings?


I have no idea. I posted a link to the article.

I've a blood type O+ and a meat eater. I feel best on meat, so I tend to believe articles written by fellow carnivores.


LOL! Please don't tell me you read that "Eat right for your blood type" book and took it as fact.

There's a reason you "feel best on meat" and it's known as the placebo effect.
 
It always amazes me that anyone could look at how diverse humans are and yet imagine we should all eat the same!

Go do exactly what your doctor told you. That's a good boy.
 
Let's let this thread die.

I'll think twice about posting anything like this here again. This type of post tends to divide the forum, IMHO. We have our differences but I'd rather we keep them in our imaginations vs see them come to reality in a post like this.
 
Originally Posted By: biodiesel
Originally Posted By: Lurch
Originally Posted By: asiancivicmaniac
What study is he citing? Not citing a source is as good as talking out of your behind. Also, what's the directionality of the findings?


I have no idea. I posted a link to the article.

I've a blood type O+ and a meat eater. I feel best on meat, so I tend to believe articles written by fellow carnivores.


LOL! Please don't tell me you read that "Eat right for your blood type" book and took it as fact.

There's a reason you "feel best on meat" and it's known as the placebo effect.


The reason is that your belly is full! Eat a big salad one day and the next day eat a big fat juicy steak with a baked potato. Tell me you feel better after eating a salad.
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Originally Posted By: biodiesel
Originally Posted By: Lurch
Originally Posted By: asiancivicmaniac
What study is he citing? Not citing a source is as good as talking out of your behind. Also, what's the directionality of the findings?


I have no idea. I posted a link to the article.

I've a blood type O+ and a meat eater. I feel best on meat, so I tend to believe articles written by fellow carnivores.


LOL! Please don't tell me you read that "Eat right for your blood type" book and took it as fact.

There's a reason you "feel best on meat" and it's known as the placebo effect.

Maybe he feels better because he feels better? Humans are built to eat fat and proteins found in meat, we don't have the guts of herbivores and we can't eat just lean meats like carnivores. So having a gut full of grass fed, cap on, rib eye steak with a baked potato could be about as good as it gets in terms eating a satisfying meal, both mentally and physically. Its a meal we are "designed" to love.
Eating salad is good for you but your body knows it can't sustain you without more proteins and fats.
 
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Maybe he feels better because he feels better? Humans are built to eat fat and proteins found in meat, we don't have the guts of herbivores and we can't eat just lean meats like carnivores. So having a gut full of grass fed, cap on, rib eye steak with a baked potato could be about as good as it gets in terms eating a satisfying meal, both mentally and physically. Its a meal we are "designed" to love.
Eating salad is good for you but your body knows it can't sustain you without more proteins and fats.


No humans are not "built" to eat fat and proteins found in meat. That is pure nonsense.

With regards to your rib eye and baked potato supposedly being "about as good as it gets" you couldn't be more incorrect. The enzymes needed to break down meat in your stomach, as opposed to starches like those found in potatoes, come from two entirely different groups. These two groups fight and clash against one another for digestion when a human mixes proteins and starches together. When these two groups oppose it creates indigestion and lack of absorption of proper vitamins and minerals. THAT is the reason you claim to feel satisfied after eating a meal like that, and also the reason you feel "full and content" for so long after doing so. It's because your body can't even properly digest what it just ate. You boys need to do some basic dietary research.

If one insists on eating animal flesh as their desired source of protein, then it should only be eaten with greens. A nice salad, green beans, broccoli, collards, spinach sauteed in garlic and olive oil, etc. The supposedly classical American "meat and potatoes" diet is one of the worst things you can do for your body. Hamburger and fries, steak and baked potato is old school and literally ignorant.
 
My holistic doctor told me the same thing that biodiesel said above and it has been working for me and the pounds are coming off.

I probably eat more and more times per day but I eat the right combination of foods at the right time.

I'm loosing weight, feel great, and have way more energy and I haven't eliminated anything I like from my diet, I just eat it at different times combined with different things!

Eg: Animal protein with vegetables that aren't starchy or have natural sugars like carrots.

Prior to this I was a meat/potatoes kinda guy and that lead to fatigue and weight gain, so there is definitely truth to it as I have experienced it.
 
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