Mazda Diesel SkyActibve WILL come to US!

[97tbird]

Looks like it's gonna happen:

http://blog.caranddriver.com/diesel-anno...-l-a-auto-show/

Quote:
Diesel-lovers take note: In addition the debut of the 2014 iterations of the Mazda 6 sedan and CX-5 crossover, Mazda will reveal specific timing and application details on the U.S. debut of their highly anticipated Skyactiv-D 2.2-liter diesel engine at the 2012 L.A. auto show..

 

[JHZR2]

Nice. I could see myself in a 6 diesel!

 

[bourne]

MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmm Diesel CX-5 !

 

[97tbird]

They haven't revealed WHICH car it will be in...
I hope it will be the 6 too...because the 6 is a strong candidate for my wife's next car, but IDK how much experience and know-how Mazda has with diesel technology...

So...we still might go with the 2.5 SkyActive G (IF we get a 6), but I am generally excited about Mazda's SkyActive-D

 

[eljefino]

A vote for the little van wagon thing

 

[expat]

Originally Posted By: 97tbird
but IDK how much experience and know-how Mazda has with diesel technology...

Mazda's SkyActive-D


For 'Common rail direct injection' since about 2002

 

[65f100]

Why did they wait until diesel was 70 cents more per gallon than gasoline to bring it here?

 

[daves87rs]

A 3 hatch? Maybe?

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Do they still have the oil dillution issues?

And how much more is it? I *really* like the CX-5 - small SUV, manual trans ... but I vowed to never buy another new vehicle.

Wonder if they will sell it with a 6 speed manual.

 

[NateDN10]

Originally Posted By: eljefino
A vote for the little van wagon thing

The Mazda5? That would be nice... Although I'm happy that it's actually coming stateside at all!

 

[scurvy]

Originally Posted By: Miller88
Do they still have the oil dillution issues?


That's the million dollar question. Big issues with oil dilution with these engines in Australia - changing oil less than every 2000 km! (source)... "Rising oil levels are something which can be attributed to normal operation of a modern diesel engine. There can be a slight dilution of oil levels and that’s completely normal," Mazda Australia public relations manager Steve Maciver says. Utter bollocks!

Originally Posted By: NateDN10
Originally Posted By: eljefino
A vote for the little van wagon thing

The Mazda5? That would be nice... Although I'm happy that it's actually coming stateside at all!


The 5 has been stateside since 2006, albeit with a completely conventional 4 cylinder petrol engine. Ours has the refreshed 2.5 liter and a 6-speed manual transmission. It's nice!

 

[SwampSurvivor]

At least diesel fuel is an oil

 

[VicVinegar]

Originally Posted By: 65f100
Why did they wait until diesel was 70 cents more per gallon than gasoline to bring it here?


Yeah, unfortunately the potential cost savings are wiped out by the current cost of diesel vs. gas. Especially when the gas motor can deliver 40 mpg like the SkyActiv 3 is supposed to.

 

[SwampSurvivor]

The diesel will probably run $4k more ...

 

[SLCraig]

I wish other makers would follow suit.
Some choice would be good.
I hope this sets the bar for diesels to come.

 

[supton]

Will the gas motor deliver 40mpg? I don't want to be snide nor do any one up-manship; but my VW was able to deliver mid 40's with a heavy right foot for years. And under the new EPA reg's was rated at 43mpg (IIRC) no less. But when I drive my wife's Camry with the same right foot, it gets well under EPA highway.

I agree, both fuel types are starting to converge in terms of mpg, and so it's no longer a case of diesel being better. It's becoming a hard sell, what with the new emissions technology. But Hyundia just got bit (and hard) for a simple (perhaps intentional?) goof, one that was easily shown in real life by antedotal reports of low mpg. "Show me the beef!"

Plus, I'll believe it when I see it. Honda and Subaru have promised diesels for quite some time.

 

[surfstar]

Well the 2.2 diesel will get more MPG and have TWICE the torque of the 2.0 gasser, so it would help out the CX-5 for sure (which is what was rumored to get the 2.2D first, but who knows).

 

[SwampSurvivor]

Driving hard with the summer tires, I always get 3-4 above EPA for my Focus.

With the snow tires ... that's a no.

 

[surfstar]

(Too late to edit previous post): http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/news/oil-burner-sporty-to-the-maxx/1615995/

During that review, they burned 6.1L/100km (~38.5mpg) and its rated for 5.7L/100km (41mpg).
Its likely the 2.2D will be a higher end model and will not provide economy benefits vs the base FWD 6spd manual 2.0L for total operating costs. BUT you get 40mpg and AWD (hopefully a choice of MTX/ATX too). If they could do that for $25k, I'd be tempted, but likely to be over $30k, I imagine.

 

[NateDN10]

Originally Posted By: surfstar
(Too late to edit previous post): http://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/news/oil-burner-sporty-to-the-maxx/1615995/

During that review, they burned 6.1L/100km (~38.5mpg) and its rated for 5.7L/100km (41mpg).
Its likely the 2.2D will be a higher end model and will not provide economy benefits vs the base FWD 6spd manual 2.0L for total operating costs. BUT you get 40mpg and AWD (hopefully a choice of MTX/ATX too). If they could do that for $25k, I'd be tempted, but likely to be over $30k, I imagine.

Even 38.5 mpg combined is very impressive, especially so if they tested the AWD model. For reference the gasser is rated 29/28 mpg combined (FWD/AWD).

Edit: comparing costs, assuming $4.15/gal for diesel and $3.80/gal for gasoline (typical in my neck of the woods), the diesel is $0.108/mi while the gasser is $0.131/mi.