Math is key

[JHZR2]

adam,

That is much better... I was worried that you would be a paper pusher reconciling unemployment taxes or something like that...

So long as you can show relevance, IMO, youre OK.

Still may want to take advantage of Master's programs that they may offer...

 

[adam123]

I probably will. Appreciate the input btw !

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
JHZR2,

You are right... most kids today really aren't interested in math.

Without engineers we would sill be living like Fred Flintstone.



Yaba daba doo!

 

[tom slick]

Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
JHZR2,

You are right... most kids today really aren't interested in math.

Without engineers we would sill be living like Fred Flintstone.



To take it a step further, most parents aren't interested in having their kids interested in math. My wife is a math teacher and sees it everyday.

 

[XS650]

Adam, a weakness I see in the experience that you are getting is that you are analyzing others work instead of creating new products or designs.

There is big-big difference between evaluating others work and taking a basic set of often poorly defined requirements and creating product that meets those requirements.

You can help that out a bit by doing some serious hobby work that uses your engineering skills to create challenging designs.

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

Originally Posted By: tom slick
Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
JHZR2,

You are right... most kids today really aren't interested in math.

Without engineers we would sill be living like Fred Flintstone.



To take it a step further, most parents aren't interested in having their kids interested in math. My wife is a math teacher and sees it everyday.


I thought poker would change all that?

 

[Audi Junkie]

Mathmatics is extremly interesting as it is the most basic and elemental "thing" that exists. It transcends theory and reality. What other endevour is so pure and complex? It's simple and complex at the same time. I'm not a mathmatician in the sense that I don't want to actually do the complex work of math, but I want to know about all the various quirks it contains. There are quite a number of interesting aspects that I like to learn about.

Wiki has great sections on subjects like mathmatics.

_______________________________________________________
Mathematics is the search for fundamental truths in pattern, quantity, and change. For more on the relationship between mathematics and science, refer to the article on science.

The following outline is provided as an overview of and topical guide to mathematics:

Contents

1 Subjects
1.1 Quantity
1.2 Structure
1.3 Space
1.4 Change
1.5 Foundations and philosophy
1.6 Mathematical logic
1.7 Discrete mathematics
1.8 Applied mathematics
2 History
3 General concepts
4 Influential mathematicians
5 Related lists
6 External links



[edit] Subjects

[edit] Quantity
Main article: Quantity
Natural numbers
Integers
Rational numbers
Real numbers
Complex numbers

[edit] Structure
Main article: Structure
Number theory
Abstract algebra
Order theory

[edit] Space
Main article: Space
Geometry
Algebraic geometry
Trigonometry
Differential geometry
Topology
Fractal geometry

[edit] Change
Main article: Change
Calculus
Vector calculus
Differential equations
Dynamical systems
Chaos theory

[edit] Foundations and philosophy
Main article: Foundations of mathematics
Philosophy of mathematics
Category theory
Set theory

[edit] Mathematical logic
Main article: Mathematical logic
Model theory
Proof theory
Recursion theory
Set theory

[edit] Discrete mathematics
Main article: Discrete mathematics
Combinatorics
Theory of computation
Cryptography
Graph theory

[edit] Applied mathematics
Main article: Applied mathematics
Mathematical physics
Analytical mechanics
Mathematical fluid dynamics
Numerical analysis
Optimization
Probability
Statistics
Mathematical economics
Financial mathematics
Game theory
Mathematical biology
Cryptography
Operations research
Information theory
Control theory
Dynamical systems

[edit] History
Main article: History of mathematics
Babylonian mathematics
Egyptian mathematics
Indian mathematics
Greek mathematics
Chinese mathematics
Abacus
History of the Hindu-Arabic numeral system
Islamic mathematics
Japanese mathematics
History of algebra
History of geometry
History of mathematical notation
History of trigonometry
History of writing numbers

[edit] General concepts
Algebra -- Analysis -- Area -- Arithmetic -- Calculus -- Category theory -- Combinatorics -- Complex number -- Computation -- Coordinate system -- Decimal -- Derivative -- Digit -- Equation -- Fractal -- Function (mathematics) -- Geometry -- Infinity -- Integral -- Length -- Limit -- Logarithm -- Logic -- Matrix -- Number -- Numeral -- Pi -- Power -- Prime number -- Proof -- Rational number -- Real number -- Series -- Set -- Trigonometry -- Vector space -- Vector (geometric) -- Volume


[edit] Influential mathematicians
Main article: List of mathematicians
Bartel Leendert van der Waerden
Leonhard Euler
Pythagoras
Fibonacci

[edit] Related lists
Main article: Lists of mathematics topics




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_mathematics


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal_art


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number#Computation_by_rounding


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculus

 

[Audi Junkie]

This passage is particularly interesting...Sociology and Psychology derived from math?


Game theory has been put to several uses in philosophy. Responding to two papers by W.V.O. Quine (1960, 1967), Lewis (1969) used game theory to develop a philosophical account of convention. In so doing, he provided the first analysis of common knowledge and employed it in analyzing play in coordination games. In addition, he first suggested that one can understand meaning in terms of signaling games. This later suggestion has been pursued by several philosophers since Lewis (Skyrms (1996), Grim, Kokalis, and Alai-Tafti et al. (2004)). Following Lewis (1969) game-theoretic account of conventions, Ullmann Margalit (1977) and Bicchieri (2006) have developed theories of social norms that define them as Nash equilibria that result from transforming a mixed-motive game into a coordination game.[6]

Game theory has also challenged philosophers to think in terms of interactive epistemology: what it means for a collective to have common beliefs or knowledge, and what are the consequences of this knowledge for the social outcomes resulting from agents' interactions. Philosophers who have worked in this area include Bicchieri (1989, 1993),[7] Skyrms (1990),[8] and Stalnaker (1999).[9]

In ethics, some authors have attempted to pursue the project, begun by Thomas Hobbes, of deriving morality from self-interest. Since games like the Prisoner's dilemma present an apparent conflict between morality and self-interest, explaining why cooperation is required by self-interest is an important component of this project. This general strategy is a component of the general social contract view in political philosophy (for examples, see Gauthier (1986) and Kavka (1986).[10]

Other authors have attempted to use evolutionary game theory in order to explain the emergence of human attitudes about morality and corresponding animal behaviors. These authors look at several games including the Prisoner's dilemma, Stag hunt, and the Nash bargaining game as providing an explanation for the emergence of attitudes about morality (see, e.g., Skyrms (1996, 2004) and Sober and Wilson (1999)).

Some assumptions used in some parts of game theory have been challenged in philosophy; psychological egoism states that rationality reduces to self-interest—a claim debated among philosophers. (see Psychological egoism#Criticism)



Oh, and a fractal generator....

http://www.apophysis.org/

 

[benjamming]

Originally Posted By: Win
Originally Posted By: benjamming
Win,

So are you denying that the medical & legal fields are now (doesn't matter much now about original setup) monopolies that can't be escaped by a functional person?


I don't know what you mean when you say "escaped by a functional person".

I wouldn't want to DIY medicine, no matter how smart I fancied myself, because I am not a doctor.


I'll try to make the question simpler this time. So are you denying that the medical & legal fields are now (doesn't matter much now about original setup) monopolies?

 

[Gary Allan]

They aren't monopolies, per se~ ..they're interlocking cartels. They all have their toll gate ante for access. They're also incestuous internally. You pay BIG to get in and you get banged BIG to stay in. Belonging to one of the service class arms of the League of Distinguished Gentlemen isn't cheap.

You have doctors and lawyers configuring your costs that are paid to doctors from insurance companies ..which are made up of doctors and lawyers. Lawyers sue doctors to make money. Lawyers defend doctors to make money. Doctors determine what procedures are required to avoid law suits. Insurance covers and profits from both ends.

Milk until the cow runs dry.

 

[Win]

Monopolies?

Interlocking Cartels?

Try franchise. I think that's the word you are looking for.

 

[Gary Allan]

A strangle hold by any other name....

 

[JHZR2]

It is not a franchise, a franchise could have somebody else with the exact same model come in and be competition, or at least do more or less the same thing.

Cant really do that in medicine or law... the system is the system. Sure, there is another doctor, but I couldn't (legally) get a prescription by any other way.

 

[Gary Allan]

Exclusive franchise for a patented product.

 

[Win]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2


It is not a franchise,

....



A franchise is a special privilege conferred by government on individuals or corporations, and which does not belong to the citizens by common right.

Any person who possesses the requisite qualifications can apply for the privilege to practice the profession, and expect it to be granted. Thousands do so every year.

As for competition, mediation and arbitration come to mind immediately. Both are in common usage, at least around here.

Why would you want someone other than a medical doctor to write you a prescription?