Just proof that an EV doesn't have the same convience as ICE for a long trip, until they can be refueled in the same amount of time and same range as ICE I have no interest and they are a huge step back. Yes - I know Tesla people have it a bit better than others, but let me know when Tesla makes something with solid axles and the aftermarket support like a Wrangler. With my JL, I have a 450 mile range and can refill in 5 minutes and be back on the road (no, I'm not just going to sit in a truck stop or some other ****ty restaurant with EV chargers for 40 minutes for a recharge) or with the X3, I have a 580 mile range and refill in 5 minutes and be back on the road.
Man forced to ditch $115K Ford EV truck during family road trip to Chicago: ‘biggest scam of modern times’
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What it boils down to me is do your homework before plopping down that kind of cash. Money is one of the best teachers in the world, losing it and gaining it, both great teachers. Losing it is a fantastic teacher, one of the very best. I'd be willing to bet the guy in the link will start doing his homework before blowing that kind of cash again on a vehicle like that. I won't go into being an early adopter, there's a lesson there too. 
Well, let's be honest.
First he was annoyed because he crashed his brand new, never been produced before truck and it took 6 months to get the parts. No story there.
Second his lack of common sense assumed the world was lined up with chargers to use on the open road in Canada or even the USA. I think many people doing due diligence would research how one was going to use his $110,000 EV truck in the real world
Third he was annoyed that he had to upgrade his electric panel for charging at home and work.
To me this just sounds like a whiny person that had no clue what he was spending $100,000 dollars on and boy if I was in sales I would like to meet this guy! Sounds like the perfect person lacking any common sense.
I will give him one thing, out of this made for media story (and it is just a story since they didnt post the story from someone happy with the truck as a counter) his gripes about working chargers is a valid complaint and I say buyer beware. You want to be first with a new technology then you better make sure how you are going to use it and acknowledge you are part of a group of less than 2% vehicles on the road so dont expect a smooth experience without planning.
A couple of things here;
He didn’t do his due diligence before buying the truck. There are so many ways these days to research a new vehicle. I’m guessing that trying to be a responsible citizen as he put it clouded his decision making. Now he is paying for it.
The publicity he is going to get from this story is a double whammy. I don’t understand the need to tell the world you made a huge blunder.
He didn’t do his due diligence before buying the truck. There are so many ways these days to research a new vehicle. I’m guessing that trying to be a responsible citizen as he put it clouded his decision making. Now he is paying for it.
The publicity he is going to get from this story is a double whammy. I don’t understand the need to tell the world you made a huge blunder.
I agree. Some people will never admit they made a mistake, especially when they lost money in the process, so they keep quiet about it. Others lie and try and justify it to others, hoping to justify it to themselves. Then you have this guy, he might think he's doing the public a service, not knowing the ramifications.
That was my first thought, he doesnt come off as being an informed consumer. I admit I dont know a lot about EV's but I knew right away that his plan wasnt very sound. I have a sneaking suspicion theres a little more to this story. My BS meter is at a high level.What it boils down to me is do your homework before plopping down that kind of cash. Money is one of the best teachers in the world, losing it and gaining it, both great teachers. Losing it is a fantastic teacher, one of the very best. I'd be willing to bet the guy in the link will start doing his homework before blowing that kind of cash again on a vehicle like that. I won't go into being an early adopter, there's a lesson there too.
As much as I dont care about EV's it kinda seems like a setup for a hit piece. Call me crazy
What I can't understand especially from a camping/off-grid standpoint is why he didn't get this for a lot less money.
https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/models/f150-limited/?gnav=vhpnav-specs
Except neither one of those organizations is going to drop that kind of coin for a vehicle to rent to someone for $19.99 for 75 minutes to whoop on and beat the crap out of.
Nor do they particularly want to deal with the infrastructure of maintaining and feeding such a vehicle, when they can just send JoeBob down to the local Speedway for a refill, or the local Quickylube for an occasional OC.
They simply are going to do what they do now. Buy the cheapest Chevy/Ford/Ram fleet grade low bid special that they can get, use it up, rinse and repeat.
Delivery service type of organizations may adopt this type of vehicle for an urban application, where they can control and train who is driving it.
Because that vehicle is not congruent with the persona he wishes to exude.
Yep long distance travel is a bit different with an EV, but this guy does pretty well towing an RV with his Tesla.
https://www.canamrv.ca/blog/post/tesla-towing-london-to-colorado-and-back/
How do you know it wasn't "EV" related? In a body shop not familiar and/or hesitant to work on EV's and/or being so limited in total production (due to being an EV pickup), could not get parts (FOR THE EV!!!).
Pretty well if you aren't really towing any weight, have unlimited time to do 60 MPH max, love to stop left and right.
This is my route (340 miles round trip) and setup, back and forth from home to go 4 wheelin for ONE day (gross close to 18K lbs total).
Figure it out for me in ANY EV?
Sometimes I stop halfway there for 10 minutes max, to pee from drinking too much coffee, I NEVER stop on the way home. I bring 5-10 gallons of diesel in cans, to put in 4WD parking lot, so I don't need any fuel stops (but I just picked up a new LB 6.7 F250, which now has 48 gallon tank, so even that will no longer be necessary).
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/538...a!2m2!1d-76.449351!2d40.6072197!3e0?entry=ttu
Yep, I'm sure you're not going to buy F150 EV and then complain about it not working for you! Close to towing a parachute.Pretty well if you aren't really towing any weight, have unlimited time to do 60 MPH max, love to stop left and right.
This is my route (340 miles round trip) and setup, back and forth from home to go 4 wheelin for ONE day (gross close to 18K lbs total).
Figure it out for me in ANY EV?
Sometimes I stop halfway there for 10 minutes max, to pee from drinking too much coffee, I NEVER stop on the way home. I bring 5-10 gallons of diesel in cans, to put in 4WD parking lot, so I don't need any fuel stops (but I just picked up a new LB 6.7 F250, which now has 48 gallon tank, so even that will no longer be necessary).
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/538...a!2m2!1d-76.449351!2d40.6072197!3e0?entry=ttu
I mean really as it’s been said here this is the worst case of both worlds. Ford has had countless issues with not producing the promised range on the Lightning and on top of that the charging network outside of Tesla has some very sparse areas. I couldn’t get around here in the Lightning when called to further outlying points.
The Lightning is nice, but to actually use it I think it may be the worst EV on the market. To start from a vehicle that realistically only gets 22 mpg, which is more than I saw with my ‘17 5.0 it’s an inefficient design and that’s not a good design for an EV. We need to start slapping some weight limits on these EV trucks. The biggest issue with efficiency EV or ICE is weight and aerodynamics.
The Lightning is nice, but to actually use it I think it may be the worst EV on the market. To start from a vehicle that realistically only gets 22 mpg, which is more than I saw with my ‘17 5.0 it’s an inefficient design and that’s not a good design for an EV. We need to start slapping some weight limits on these EV trucks. The biggest issue with efficiency EV or ICE is weight and aerodynamics.
Tesla has the advantage of a really good charging infrastructure that’s built in. They display real time information on their Supercharger network including which ones are down and availability. I was on a recent trip where unfortunately two of eight were down and there were a lot of people waiting.
And towing would be a pain since many charging systems have short cables requiring a back in (I.e. disconnecting the trailer). I have seen a few Tesla setups where it was head in, but not that many. And I’m thinking having a trailer sticking out might not be a good idea.
Semi trucks, airplanes, and most military equipment should be the last to be electrified because they cover the longest distances between refuelings, and liquid petroleum has the benefit of energy density.but where are the EV semi trucks? oh. ok. this is why.
Oh, and there's trains that do it much more effectively.
This doesn't mean we shouldn't try some projects like caternary wires on long uphill slogs that a diesel/electric hybrid can hook into... might even help give them a speed boost.
Yes, that EXO caged thing is not aero friendly
I did consider it (due to the power I thought an EV truck would have for towing) and put together a plan to maybe make it work. I figured ext range with tow package lightning. Then two used Model S battery packs on my trailer. Even then, I'd have to charge once, and that would be what, 4-6 hours possibly?? It would also be 150 grand. And it still would not do a longer trip than that. Even going to AOAA for the same one day trip, it would not make it.
Got my F250 for 1% below invoice. Not loaded up, but careful choice of options (locker, wheelwells, bed liner, mud flaps) on an XLT CC LB 6.7 HO (500/1200). It was $66K plus tax tags. So I have about 80 grand to spend on fuel
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He's in Canada, so the correct link would be:
https://www.ford.ca/trucks/f150/models/f150-limited/?gnav=header-electrified-mod
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