Making Coolant Bypass filter- Have Questions

[jdw1222]

I am making a coolant bypass filter setup for my 6.0 powerstroke. Is it OK to use brass T-fittings?

Also, I am trying to figure out how to mount the filter. I already have an oil bypass mounted where most normally mount the coolant filter. Is it OK to mount the coolant bypass under the motor? I asked this on the diesel site and got mixed answers. some thought there isn't enough pressure/coolant flow to make this work and that I needed to figure out how to mount it above in the engine bay. Any suggestions of Ideas are appreciated

 

[Steve S]

Why do you want a coolant bypass filter?

 

[jdw1222]

b.c the casting sand and other [censored] seems to be prtty bad on the 6.o inside the cooling system. alot of guys seem to run them. Maybe it's overkill but it is only going to cost me around $50 or so, so i figured its pretty cheap insurance

 

[wcbcruzer]

I've heard of Powerstroke owners (as well as others) doing this on their rig. Should be a good idea. I'd say it's ok to mount the filter below the motor, just use a ball valve on the inlet/outlet ports to prevent coolant loss when you change the filter. I'd try to eliminate the use of a brass T.

 

[Steve S]

I have read some internet posts ,if you are worried the best thing to do would be to flush out the sand. and stop the sand problem in its tracks.

 

[Gary Allan]

I always loved that question:

why do you want to do that?

my answer is: Why do you need to know? Are you here to help me accomplish my goal, for whatever reason I've pulled out of my behind, or not?

The location shouldn't be too much of an issue in terms of going low. You have the advantage of air being purged one way or another. It's harder to push an air bubble downhill (over engine installations). The length of the hose will reduce the flow, but you won't have much anyway.

You can get plastic tee fittings at NAPA. Brass are probably fine, but the plastic stuff from NAPA probably carries a higher temp rating.

 

[instigator]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
I always loved that question:

Brass are probably fine, but the plastic stuff from NAPA probably carries a higher temp rating.

OH? didnt know that one. just thought i'd jab a little. but my sentiments are like yours Gary, i cant stand it when i get asked why do you want to do that or this. especially when the answer is right there in there question, WANT, because i want to.

anyway i used the "T" fitting from napa to plumb my bypass coolant filter. i will be changing them though for a setup thats has better adaptability,(right angle T off).

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
I always loved that question:

why do you want to do that?

my answer is: Why do you need to know? Are you here to help me accomplish my goal, for whatever reason I've pulled out of my behind, or not?

The location shouldn't be too much of an issue in terms of going low. You have the advantage of air being purged one way or another. It's harder to push an air bubble downhill (over engine installations). The length of the hose will reduce the flow, but you won't have much anyway.

You can get plastic tee fittings at NAPA. Brass are probably fine, but the plastic stuff from NAPA probably carries a higher temp rating.
I need to know because I want to know. I want to know because I need to know. Gary you have been pulling much from your behind the last few months . I did a search.

 

[Steve S]

Plastic has a higher temp rating than brass?. I worry about the plastic breaking . Clark equipment used plastic fittings in the cooling lines on the lpg vaporizers they heald up pretty good but were guaranteed to break when they were worked on,changing the coolant hoses for instance. International had coolant filter adapters built on ther water pumps for certain applications for their 7.3 engines. I like oem type of mods. I see people putting bypass filters and running syn oil and changine the oil still at 5,00 miles then turning the trucks over at 100,00 miles I like to ask.

 

[jdw1222]

i have 122k on the truck now and planto keep it until it is beyond repair, hopefully 300K plus

 

[deepsquat]

You also may want to run some RMI-25 ..stuff does an incredible job of pulling out castings ..I ran it in my corvette..my honda motorcycle and my nissan ..pdumped casting into the overflow tank on all of them

And Don't pay ANY! attention to Steve ..he only come to this forum to tell people they are wasting there time with a bypass...don't believe me? do a search ..he is a troll

 

[jldcol]

After 122k I think a lot if not all of whatever has been flushed off whereever. The question is where is that stuff now? If in radiator can remove and wash/flush really well. More likely in the lower areas of block after settlement. Stuff on the bottom is trapped by stuff on top which slowly is pulled into coolant by flow over the top. Without pulling engine and shaking it upside down or the equivalent need to filter this stuff and catch it to remove, right? This is WHY, I think and if willing to put on and pay out, what really? Good luck and good plumbing.

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: deepsquat
You also may want to run some RMI-25 ..stuff does an incredible job of pulling out castings ..I ran it in my corvette..my honda motorcycle and my nissan ..pdumped casting into the overflow tank on all of them

And Don't pay ANY! attention to Steve ..he only come to this forum to tell people they are wasting there time with a bypass...don't believe me? do a search ..he is a troll
I just know better.I was a professional. Over the years I have seen so many people putting on bypass filters using fancy oils and never getting a dimes worth of advantage out of the money spent on stuff that is not needed . I you guys want to waste your $$$$ I really do not care. But if a question arises I will give the most truthfull answer I can as I do not profit from my replys.

 

[Gary Allan]

Quote:
Plastic has a higher temp rating than brass?.



In many cases, yes. It just won't have the pressure rating ..which in any cooling system that I can think of ..shouldn't be an issue.

Brass may only be rated for 200F.

 

[Gary Allan]

Quote:
I need to know because I want to know. I want to know because I need to know. Gary you have been pulling much from your behind the last few months . I did a search.


My behind? I try and keep it tidy. It's my best resource. Feel free to be my Proctologist and call me out on anything that's out of order.

When I see someone doing something and I THINK I see where they're going, AND I've been there already, I ask POLITELY .."can you tell me what you're trying to accomplish? I'm just wondering if I can, perhaps, share my experience". Then I might be able to save them some time in the learning curve that they're in the middle of in discovery.

People learn all kinds of stuff on their own, Steve. They don't always do it in a format that others can approve of. "Getting my feet wet" "How many teeth are in a horses mouth?" ..all those things are personal experiences in the soaking and the counting.

Ever spend money at a restaurant? Why'd you do that? Waste of money if you ask me ..implying "only a jackarse would do something like that"

Why not just answer the question and say, "While I don't necessarily see any favorable cost:benefit to it, here's how you do it". ??????

Instead, most of your posts just tell people that they're stupid for doing what they want to do.

They don't have to make sense to you. Do you pay their bills? ..fix their house?..service their wife? No.

You've got a static "why would you want to do something as asinine as that?" standard format ..and it's virtually EVERY post.

Is that all you have to bring to the BITOG collective table?

 

[rlent]

Originally Posted By: Steve S
I just know better.I was a professional.

A professional what ?

(I am asking sincerely - it is not meant as some derisive comment)

 

[bcossa2001]

Do you think that the gunk would get caught in the filter or still end up in the overflow tank??

 

[Steve S]

Originally Posted By: rlent
Originally Posted By: Steve S
I just know better.I was a professional.

A professional what ?

(I am asking sincerely - it is not meant as some derisive comment)
5 years at an independent fleet repair shop which repaired big trucks , cars, pickup ,trucks and construction equipment brought into be repaired [ no really heavy stuff]then 17.5 years at a material handling dealership that not only serviced what the dealership sold but what ever else the companies would ask us to repair as well as the dealerships 3, class 8 trucks probably 30 Ford vans some pickups company cars the owners vehicles etc. I have been through the apprenticeship program as well as the automotive programs and classes to keep up with all the new technology for both gas and diesel engines etc ,the same that everybody else in the Auto, truck, tractor repair industry has to do these days ,probably as in every industry.
In between that for 2 years ran a truck as an owner operator running the 48 states 'Cause I just wanted to do it, then to make extra $$ during the last recession worth talking about [cause that is when I lost my job] in the early 80's I drove truck out of the line drivers local Union hall. The after high school and college days are a blur.

 

[Gary Allan]

Well, I'd say that you've got enough experience to chat a while.


..any plans to host "Steve's don't bother with it" message board? It could be a place for BITOG members in recovery. Many will need some support group ...sooner or later.

 

[Shup1]

[/quote] I need to know because I want to know. I want to know because I need to know. Gary you have been pulling much from your behind the last few months . I did a search. [/quote]

Steve gotta ask....exactly what did you type in the search feature to see what Gary was pulling out his butt??

'Gary butt pull'
'pulling from ones butt by Gary'
'That darn Gary and his pulling of answers from his butt'
'double secret probation file that shows what Gary has been hiding in his butt'

Just curious...

btw - nothing against Steve, I enjoy his posts and sometime I agree with them too!