Madman on the loose

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Christopher Jordan Dorner, former LAPD officer is said to have shot two Riverside, CA police officers and an LAPD officer. He is, at the moment of this posting, being sought in San Diego since there's evidence he has spent some time here in the last few days.

Dorner apparently shot Monica Quan, of Fullerton, and her fiance Keith Lawrence this past Sunday, Feb. 3. Quan is dead, and Lawrence is in serious or critical condition, not sure which. Monica Quan was the daughter of Randal Quan, a former LAPD captain that Dorner blames for the fact that he (Dorner) lost his job as an LAPD officer.

They're also saying that Dorner was a sniper in the Navy, so it looks like he's a pretty dangerous guy. His LAPD badge was found near the San Diego airport and turned into police this morning.

No one really knows where he is at this point.
 
I just heard on the news that he has a house here in Vegas. Yay for us!
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Hope they find him alive before he harms others and figure out what makes him tick so we can improve our mental health knowledge. Then throw him to the sharks in prison. Sounds like a nutball.
 
Not a sniper - as far as what he did in the Navy Reserve - I can't share personal details to which I might have access.

This from NDC News: Dorner, 33, was a lieutenant in the Navy Reserves from 2002 until this week, and earned a ribbon for rifle marksmanship and a medal for pistol expertise. He was honorably discharged.

The ribbon for rifle marksmanship is not uncommon, many of our personnel are trained in small arms (usually the M-4 for rifle) to fulfill various mission requirements, including security as well as assignment to Army units in ground combat (as I write this, the USN has roughly 10,000 personnel assigned to Army units in Afghanistan and the Gulf...sailors in Army roles to augment the Army and half of those come from the reserve).

The levels of proficiency are explained in detail here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marksmanship_Medal

Bottom line - to be able to carry a weapon, one must achieve a minimum score...all we know at this point is that he achieved a minimum score. Perhaps more.

But he was not a SEAL or other combat shooter....he wears no warfare designation on his uniform...

And yes, he is clearly mentally ill...and the deaths that he is reported to have caused are a tragedy. I hope that the police are successful in stopping him before anyone else is hurt or worse.
 
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Glad he's not in/from these parts, from what I've heard & read he's likely to shoot anyone in uniform, and has enough training to drop off the radar and pop up anywhere out West & cause trouble.
 
Pretty scary stuff. With his training he will be tough to catch unless he makes a big mistake and hopefully he does before he shoots anybody else. If they found some of his stuff in San Diego, maybe he crossed over into Mexico.
 
I have zero military/firearms/survival training. But I can hit a small bullseye from 300 yards, and live off the land for an eternity. I could drop off the radar at the drop of a hat. Just sayin
 
Originally Posted By: javacontour
To the OP, who said he was a sniper?

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They're also saying that Dorner was a sniper in the Navy...


The various local news outlets were saying that this morning.
 
His truck was found in Big Bear, only about 15 miles from me as the Crow flies.

I'm not running scared but I am on a hightened alert. My Mossberg is out of the safe and has one in the chamber and 5 more ready to follow. All shells are 3inch "00".

If he were to show up here he does not get the "Rack of a pump shotgun" warning.
 
Originally Posted By: Chris142
His truck was found in Big Bear, only about 15 miles from me as the Crow flies.

I'm not running scared but I am on a hightened alert. My Mossberg is out of the safe and has one in the chamber and 5 more ready to follow. All shells are 3inch "00".

If he were to show up here he does not get the "Rack of a pump shotgun" warning.


I'm guessing he's back in L.A. already, but who knows?
 
See how that "our weather is always nice" thing works out for you? He could live off the land for a long time out there. A guy like that snaps out this way and he has to decide if he wants to surrender at the nearest police station, run for mayor, or get picked up at the 7-11 while trying to buy junkfood to use as survival rations. You can only live so long without food. Even if you can hunt and cook you have to worry about getting run over by old people if you stay outdoors too long.
 
Originally Posted By: Barkleymut
I have zero military/firearms/survival training. But I can hit a small bullseye from 300 yards, and live off the land for an eternity. I could drop off the radar at the drop of a hat. Just sayin


It gets a little harder when the "bullseye" is shooting back. Just sayin

Smoky
PS: Marksman is the lowest qualifying grade in shooting.
 
The CA approach to stopping the "madman"....

1. The police response has been to shoot-up a vehicle with two women delivering newspapers.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html

2. The lawmakers response was to hold a meeting in Sacramento where they propose more gun laws (even though this guy has already broken existing laws that did nothing to stop him)
The new laws proposed would ban making, or possession of semi-automatic guns with removable magazines, (only a magazine of 6 rounds that could only be removed with a tool allowed), no "grandfather clause", hire more police to take away guns that are currently legal... (search yahoo "youtube Steinberg - Proposals to Reduce Gun Violence" )

Why can't they blame crime on the criminal ?
 
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It is always the toughest to catch one of your own. This ex-cop knows the training and normal operation and I'm sure he's planning his path around it.

Gun control law or not, this guy knows weapon and law enforcement. This is usually the hardest to stop out of all violence as he is both mental and well trained.

I'd not post any gun control related debate in this thread, but this shows you even the person appears to be the most stable, most trained, most suitable to protect the rest of us can be dangerous with enough leverage (weapon in this case). I'd assume the volunteers who would carry guns with them (with permit) for "everyone's protection" would be less stable, less well trained, and less suitable to protect the rest of us and snap much easier, at least statistically.
 
Originally Posted By: carwreck
The CA approach to stopping the "madman"....

1. The police response has been to shoot-up a vehicle with two women delivering newspapers.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html

2. The lawmakers response was to hold a meeting in Sacramento where they propose more gun laws (even though this guy has already broken existing laws that did nothing to stop him)
The new laws proposed would ban making, or possession of semi-automatic guns with removable magazines, (only a magazine of 6 rounds that could only be removed with a tool allowed), no "grandfather clause", hire more police to take away guns that are currently legal... (search yahoo "youtube Steinberg - Proposals to Reduce Gun Violence" )

Why can't they blame crime on the criminal ?

Looking at that truck its unclear which cop is the madman. There must be a god, no other explanation for how they both survived.
 
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