M1 Volatility - multiple vis products

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M1 FS 0W-40, M1 ESP 0W-30, M1 5W-30 ESP Volatility Results - May 2025

The test was conducted on May 24, 2025. These oils were sent them to me by two BITOG members. I still have some more oils to test that were sent by one of the members. As always, 1.000 grams of oil were used for each oil. They are put in aluminum cups with a cutout on part of their sides that allow venting to occur despite the cups being covered with folded aluminum foil to block the radiation caused by the oven coils. The cups were lined up in a row on an aluminum pan and they were roughly 1.5 inches forward of the coils (toward the door) in the oven. In prior tests, they were considerably closer to the door/window. Temperature was set on the oven to ~ 420 F. I usually weighed them every 1/2 hour, and rotated them to the right to help equalize the conditions each oil experiences during the test. Weighed and rotated them every ½ hour instead of 1 hour to improve the data accuracy. Unlike some recent tests, there was no cardboard put around the oven to block the wind. That is a hassle and it was not windy.

Quaker State Euro 5W-40 was also in the test to act as a reference oil. I have a lot of past data on it and its Noack value is believed to be known (5.7%), so it is a good reference oil.

QS 5W-40 was the least volatile, as expected. At 3.75 hours, relative to QS 5W-40, M1 ESP 0W-30 was 33% more volatile, M1 FS 0W-40 was 56% more volatile, and M1 ESP 5W-30 was 62% more volatile. Those are some big differences, especially the latter two.

buster does a great job of posting the Russian Oil Club's (ROC) data on some oils, including the two ESP oils. The ESP 0W-30 tested by the ROC in Feb 2025 had 8.4% Noack. The ESP 5W-30 tested in Oct 2024 had 8.6% Noack. In my tests, ESP 5W-30 had considerably higher volatility than 0W-30 ESP, such that it is seems incompatible with ESP 5W-30 having a Noack that close to ESP 0W-30. I tested these oils one week ago, not just today. Every test has errors and my ESP oils are potentially a bit different than those tested by the ROC.

I think that ESP 0W-30 is less volatile than ESP 5W-30 because of the former having some ester while the latter lacks it. The fact that ESP 0W-30 has a very high VI and is still less volatile than ESP 5W-30 is remarkable.

The first graph shows cumulative weight losses and the second one shows cumulative weight losses, relative to QS 5W-40's cumulative weight losses. I am overall happy with the data quality. M1 0W-40 losses are noisier than I would prefer. The further into the test, generally the more accurate the data is. I made estimates for the Noack values and think they are most accurate at 2.75 hours. The data had some extra noise at 2.0 and 2.5 hours and if it were not for that, it may have been more accurate at 2 hours, like has often been the case in past tests.

One last thing that is not important. The two ESP oils' color got easily-noticeably darker than the other two oils. QS 5W-40 was the least dark and only barely less dark than M1 FS 0W-40. The two ESP oils smelled more bad than is normal during such tests.

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Noack estimates at 2.75 hours are below. It relies on assuming that QS 5W-40's Noack value is 5.7%.
M1 ESP 0W-30: 7.8%
M1 FS 0W-40: 9.0%
M1 ESP 5W-30: 9.4%

Noack tests give only one number, a snapshot in time. Seeing multiple measurements over time gives a more complete picture. It shows the combination of how the true volatility varies as a function of time and the errors. The errors in my tests are partly due to variations in the conditions (temperature, air flow, oil vapor flow and concentration) inside each cup, and partly due to the electronic scale's errors.
 
If we had to guesstimate, based on your graphs and buster data, M1 FS 0W-40 Noack should be somewhere between 8.4 and 8.6.
I need my calculator.

What Noack does the Russian site shows for the FS?
 
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If these results hold any weight (pun intended) , then it could attest to the value in base oil and overall composition compared to just the tendency of 0w to have higher Noack. Perhaps not in all cases; especially the better the base oils? Looking at the ESP 5w30 oxidation value changing
 
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If these results hold any weight (pun intended) , then it could attest to the value in base oil and overall composition compared to just the tendency of 0w to have lower Noack. Perhaps not in all cases; especially the better the base oils? Looking at the ESP 5w30 oxidation value changing
I'd expand that to note that this is yet another case against the argument that a "narrower spread" is inherently less volatile, which gets dropped as a "fact" on here every once in a while.
 
I'd expand that to note that this is yet another case against the argument that a "narrower spread" is inherently less volatile, which gets dropped as a "fact" on here every once in a while.
I suppose if the oil formulation is the same, perhaps that is still generally true. However, as there seems to be the difference in formulation between 0w-30 ESP and 5w-30 ESP; I wonder if the older formulation 5w30 would have yielded better results. My guess is probably. So, grade alone isn’t enough. Composition is more important than just the oil grade.

PS: edited my above post where I should have said when Noack is generally higher in a 0w…
 
I’m sorry, cookand! 😄 It’s not over yet, since the oxidation portion of the test has been going on much of today. Soon coming up on 11.75 hours of total heating. Typically oils really take a dramatic turn for the worse around 12 hours. Today I increased the temp. to 425 and moved the cups closer to the heater coils. Maybe the ESP 5W-30 will win the oxidation/deposit portion of the test. I value results in this performance category more than volatility.
 
Drive and don’t worry about it. But… ESP X4 0W-40 is the best oil they sell in my opinion at least for PCMO.
I’m sure it is. Don’t think I’m ready to make the jump to a 40. Lol. Heck, it’s been common sense to me that a 30 had to be better for my truck than a 20, and 4 years later I’ve just now decided to make the switch. 😜😜
 
Drive and don’t worry about it. But… ESP X4 0W-40 is the best oil they sell in my opinion at least for PCMO.
OP expresses a desire to utilize the 5w30 ESP oil in a 3.0 Duramax engine. While I attempted to elucidate the distinction between “truck” diesel oil approvals and those specifically designed for VW/BMW gas/diesel vehicles, including cars and SUVs, the individual remained resolute in their intention to use this oil in their truck. Although I would consider using it in vehicles such as the Tacoma, Tundra, or Silverado etc., I would refrain from using it in a diesel truck that generates the power output of the 3.0 Duramax engine. This decision is based on several factors, including fuel dilution and the elevated oil temperatures that the engine experiences.
 
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