I have an 4cyl 01 Honda Accord with 40k on it. The last fill (6k) I've been running M1 10w30, and pure one filter. It's been ruuning well, gas millage maybe went down a little. Now down hear in Texas it's gets to about 100 degrees, and I run my AC most of the winter. Now from what I read is M1 10w30 is a thinner more shear stable oil for long drains. I know my car takes 5w20, but do ya'll see any problem repeating this or advise other wise.
M1 10w30 in Honda
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There is nothing wrong with running thicker oil in your Honda. Take a look at how many oil grades are can be used in the same car in Australia. It gets real hot down there.
Accord in Australia.
They don't even mention 5w20. Same engine made in the same factory to the same specs. The strict use of 5w20 has nothing to do with the way your engine is builts. Honda only does it to win favor with the EPA.
Accord in Australia.
They don't even mention 5w20. Same engine made in the same factory to the same specs. The strict use of 5w20 has nothing to do with the way your engine is builts. Honda only does it to win favor with the EPA.
My specific answer to your question is no, the car will not blow up by using 10w30 M1 motor oil, it may run just fine for many miles.
My opinion is that Honda is a pretty smart company and they know it is hot in the south and they still recommend 5w20. I do not think Honda would recommennd an inferrior oil and put their reputation for durability at risk.
My opinion is that Honda is a pretty smart company and they know it is hot in the south and they still recommend 5w20. I do not think Honda would recommennd an inferrior oil and put their reputation for durability at risk.
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driven reasonably, for the most part the oil temperature will be the same in most all parts of the country for the same use profile. It gets to 90-100 further north; there is nothing special about Houston, except that you have the benefit of less very cold starts.
Id be confident that 5w-20 will be A-OK. M1 is an excellent choice as well, either you coudl go 5w-20 M1, or pick another. a 10w-30 oil will be very stable and work well in your application.
JMH
Id be confident that 5w-20 will be A-OK. M1 is an excellent choice as well, either you coudl go 5w-20 M1, or pick another. a 10w-30 oil will be very stable and work well in your application.
JMH
BLIND FAITH DANO BLIND FAITH! How dare you question all mighty Honda. Honda works in mysterious ways you know. Sometimes Honda engineers are so smart we shouldn't even try to comprehend what's going on. If Honda says 5w20 in America and 5w50 in Australia well they must be right! How could you even think of coming over here and asking such a question? Why are we even here discussing this. We should all be ashamed.
Its the new world order. We better get with the program.
The only ways I can see running 5w20 is to increase mpg, and help with cold starts, oh, and b/c Honda says so. Since I'm not too worried about cold starts, or mpg, I just want an oil that will protect my engine the best over a 6k drain. The last two Honda dealers I went to were suggesting 10w30 when I asked them about the warmer weather.
Ugly3, are you aware that the same exact engine a year or two before this recommended a thicker oil. Are you also aware that the same engine overseas in cooler climates than Texas also gets thicker oil recommendations? This tells a smart man that there must be a lot more to this picture than initially meets the eye. Honda does not really care if your car loses compression at 175k miles on it cause you'll just buy another one mate.
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Oh Boy! There's someone I have even more faith in than Honda management. Stealerships that buy the cheapest bulk 10w30 oil they can find.
DANO, M1 10w30 will work just fine in your Honda, even in Texas.
Well, Honda has been recommending dino 5w30 in their cars from about 1986-88.
I wonder how all these Hondas accumulated these miles on dino 5w30? Or did they all totally ignore the owner's manual and start using MOBIL SUPER S 10W-40 because they had a long lost relative phone them from down under to clue them in?
I presently have Mobil 1 5w30 in my wifes 01' Accord 4 cyl. and it feels great. As far as MPG I haven't noticed any significant drop. I used this oil because I had it in my stash and I wasn't going to throw it away. When the warm weather comes I'll use M1 0w20 or 0w30 which I also have stashed. My max OCI is 6k even with the M1.
I grow weary of people saying that Ford or Honda's Engineers must know what they are doing, blah, blah, blah. The engineers don't pull the trigger on something like 5w-20 MANAGEMENT does that hat-trick.
Now..
Whadda ya think about them apples...
Now..
Whadda ya think about them apples...
We've read similar comments about 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 times.
DANO M-1 10W-30 will work just fine in your Honda.
I have seen the MPG difference in my friends Ford Mustang and it averages around .012 more on an 5W-20 vs 5W-30. It really helps a manufactures CAFE rateing over 100,000's of cars. That is why honda recommends the 20 weight oil.
I have seen the MPG difference in my friends Ford Mustang and it averages around .012 more on an 5W-20 vs 5W-30. It really helps a manufactures CAFE rateing over 100,000's of cars. That is why honda recommends the 20 weight oil.
I have a lot of confidence in Honda's engineers ability to pick the right viscosity oil for an application. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people at Honda with other priorities between the engineers and American consumers.quote:
Originally posted by jtantare:
BLIND FAITH DANO BLIND FAITH! How dare you question all mighty Honda. Honda works in mysterious ways you know. Sometimes Honda engineers are so smart we shouldn't even try to comprehend what's going on. If Honda says 5w20 in America and 5w50 in Australia well they must be right! How could you even think of coming over here and asking such a question? Why are we even here discussing this. We should all be ashamed.
Its the new world order. We better get with the program.
If you want to know what the engineers really think, look at what is recommended in countries with similar climates not affected by US CAFE and EPA requirements.
How is it you are in on the reason(s) Honda recommends 5w20 motor oil?
Based on 2004 data from the EPA the standard for passenger cars is 27.5 MPG, Honda's fleet for Domestic Passenger cars is at 31.1 MPG and for Imported Passenger cars is at 37.4 MPG. The standard for Light Trucks is 20.7 MPG and the Honda fleet is at 24.5 MPG. I doubt they would take mush risk to add .012 MPG.
2004 F150 4x4: I agree with you however the onus is then placed on the oil companies to produce an oil (in a 20 wt.) that will pass the Ford spec.
The reason that we see so many excellent UOA's using 20 wt. is because the oil companies have produced very robust oils in that grade.
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Yeah…. Proof that some people are real slow learners would’nt you say?
Yeah…. Proof that some people are real slow learners would’nt you say?
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