Lucid Air Gravity- Closing Gap W/ Ice

Comparing the weight of Sumo wrestlers doesn’t mean that they all can’t lose a few pounds. A good comparison size wise would be a VW Atlas and that is roughly 1500lbs lighter. That is still a porker in my book.
It seems the only EVs that don't hit heavy weight status in their classes is Tesla.
 
It seems the only EVs that don't hit heavy weight status in their classes is Tesla.

Thats tech - massive stampings reduce hundreds of pounds of weight as well as allow removal of sub assemblies and welds that go with them simplifying the chassis. Unified computing on a network loop vs miles of copper and a dozen separate control units, hugely reduced/ consolidated plumbing...
 
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Thats tech - massive stampings reduce hundreds of pounds of weight as well as allow removal of sub assemblies and welds the go with them simplifying the chassis. Unified computing on a network loop vs miles of copper and a dozen separate control units, hugely reduced/ consolidated plumbing...
Exactly. Teslas are pure play EVs; most others are ICE based platforms. Tesla wiring is optimally engineered; others are a can of worms.

Dare I say, "Wait till the big boys get in"? Flame suit on... Ha!
 
Exactly. Teslas are pure play EVs; most others are ICE based platforms. Tesla wiring is optimally engineered; others are a can of worms.

Dare I say, "Wait till the big boys get in"? Flame suit on... Ha!
That's why I own Teslas. I know I've not been shy to give my opinion of Musk, but there's not a brand that does what Tesla does. It's lighter and has better range for the size of it's battery. It's faster, the UI is better to use, and the OTA updates are just amazing. My favorite so far is matrix headlight functionality. The auto high beam was a hint dopey and was slow to react. It meant that I'd get flashed for my high beams staying on too long and then when the car would pass it would take longer than I like to come back on which is a problem in driving in pitch black at 60mph. Matrix is just next level when driving in these conditions. It's fun watching the banks of LEDs shut off to follow oncoming traffic while still keeping the road in front of me and the field lit up which is big with the amount of deer here. I haven't had a single person flash their lights at me since I got matrix.

I absolutely love my cars. I don't want anything else at this point. The only cars I like as much are ICE and I don't want to pay for the fuel or the maintenance for them as a daily driver.
 
That's why I own Teslas. I know I've not been shy to give my opinion of Musk, but there's not a brand that does what Tesla does. It's lighter and has better range for the size of it's battery. It's faster, the UI is better to use, and the OTA updates are just amazing. My favorite so far is matrix headlight functionality. The auto high beam was a hint dopey and was slow to react. It meant that I'd get flashed for my high beams staying on too long and then when the car would pass it would take longer than I like to come back on which is a problem in driving in pitch black at 60mph. Matrix is just next level when driving in these conditions. It's fun watching the banks of LEDs shut off to follow oncoming traffic while still keeping the road in front of me and the field lit up which is big with the amount of deer here. I haven't had a single person flash their lights at me since I got matrix.

I absolutely love my cars. I don't want anything else at this point. The only cars I like as much are ICE and I don't want to pay for the fuel or the maintenance for them as a daily driver.
The old M3P was done pulling hard after about 85 MPH. The new cars pull 60-130 in 10 seconds. Has to be 600 HP.
 
The caps for tax credits are $55k with cars and $80k for trucks. Just as a point of reference.
Im not seeing this, Im seeing $80,000 for most all vehicles. I just am pointing out for others. The word "truck" to some might think it has to be a real truck. No it doesnt. It can be a simple retired mom and pop small SUV.

For example, every GM vehicle has a $80,000 cap. Based on this chart there is only one vehicle with a $55,000 cap. A Tesla Model 3
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/ev-tax-credit-electric-vehicle-tax-credit
 
Im not seeing this, Im seeing $80,000 for most all vehicles. I just am pointing out for others. The word "truck" to some might think it has to be a real truck. No it doesnt. It can be a simple retired mom and pop small SUV.

For example, every GM vehicle has a $80,000 cap. Based on this chart there is only one vehicle with a $55,000 cap. A Tesla Model 3
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/ev-tax-credit-electric-vehicle-tax-credit
Right, that’s what I meant. Trucks includes SUVs. Almost always does in the automotive world. My registration for my Y says truck on it. Anything that falls under a traditional car is capped at $55k. Cars like Lucid or even the Model S are too expensive to qualify.
 
Right, that’s what I meant. Trucks includes SUVs. Almost always does in the automotive world. My registration for my Y says truck on it. Anything that falls under a traditional car is capped at $55k. Cars like Lucid or even the Model S are too expensive to qualify.
I never doubted that you knew. Just clarified it for some others because my first thought went to the pick up truck category.
 
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