lubro moly moS2 update
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At the worst it costs you $4 and do nothing to your engine, but "Feel Good" is priceless.
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I have roughly 500 miles since introducing mos2 and haven't noticed any difference yet. I may (emphasis on the "may") be getting a slight mileage boost, but its too soon to tell (I would need to track and compute it across 3 separate fills, and ideally at the same pump, to get a meaningful measurement of current mileage versus previous mileage from when I last tracked it). There are also other variables too, so even if its up I couldn't say with any certainty that its due to the addition of mos2.
So far I'm putting this in the sound additive category (i.e., not snake oil) based on what its supposed to do and that it may take several thousand miles for sufficient plating to occur before any difference is noticed.
So its not written off, and I'm content to let it do its thing in the meantime.
-Spyder
So far I'm putting this in the sound additive category (i.e., not snake oil) based on what its supposed to do and that it may take several thousand miles for sufficient plating to occur before any difference is noticed.
So its not written off, and I'm content to let it do its thing in the meantime.
-Spyder
Since that last post, I'm beginning to think the mos2 is starting to produce some noticeable effect. We've had a cold streak lately (temps a few degrees above freezing at night) and the car is running smoother both cold and warmed up. As the engine starts warming it becomes very quiet and smooth.
Some of this may be attributed to the effect (over time) of continual use of a UCL, but based on what others have reported, I'm willing to cede at least some of the credit to mos2. Maybe they the effect of both is even synergistic: the UCL breaks upper cylinder deposits down allowing for more effective plating of the moly in mos2.
I plan to stick with these additives and my 5W30 synthetic over the winter to track oil consumption. I'm hoping the net effect will (with the cleaning cycle I'm also running) produce a measurable reduction in oil consumption by next spring, and I plan to introduce no other additives other than the periodic 'as needed' regular PEA cleaning.
Based on where consumption is at that point I will move on to other measures, although I'll have an idea by then whether or not the combined use of a UCL and mos2 was enough, in my case at least, to produce any improvement, and to what degree. If no reduction in consumption I'll stick with them anyway, along with consumption specific measures, for the other potential benefits; the UCL and mos2 were introduced on their own merits with the view that if they reduced oil consumption as well, it would just be a bonus (but its also possible my piston rings are already too worn, or damaged, for these additives to have any chance of reducing consumption, and I knew that going in).
-Spyder
Some of this may be attributed to the effect (over time) of continual use of a UCL, but based on what others have reported, I'm willing to cede at least some of the credit to mos2. Maybe they the effect of both is even synergistic: the UCL breaks upper cylinder deposits down allowing for more effective plating of the moly in mos2.
I plan to stick with these additives and my 5W30 synthetic over the winter to track oil consumption. I'm hoping the net effect will (with the cleaning cycle I'm also running) produce a measurable reduction in oil consumption by next spring, and I plan to introduce no other additives other than the periodic 'as needed' regular PEA cleaning.
Based on where consumption is at that point I will move on to other measures, although I'll have an idea by then whether or not the combined use of a UCL and mos2 was enough, in my case at least, to produce any improvement, and to what degree. If no reduction in consumption I'll stick with them anyway, along with consumption specific measures, for the other potential benefits; the UCL and mos2 were introduced on their own merits with the view that if they reduced oil consumption as well, it would just be a bonus (but its also possible my piston rings are already too worn, or damaged, for these additives to have any chance of reducing consumption, and I knew that going in).
-Spyder
Would be OK to run this in a newer truck?Or is it for older cars and trucks?
Thanks
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Originally Posted By: MrMeeks
I want to try this additive.Not that long ago MoS2 (moly) was said not to be suitable as an oil additive because it is a 'solid'.Now Moly is a widely used additive.Is there now a new form of Moly?
Mos2 is a solid , the other moly [moly thio carb something is different and is soluble,
I want to try this additive.Not that long ago MoS2 (moly) was said not to be suitable as an oil additive because it is a 'solid'.Now Moly is a widely used additive.Is there now a new form of Moly?
Mos2 is a solid , the other moly [moly thio carb something is different and is soluble,
Originally Posted By: Vikas
Which UCL are you using?
Right now I'm on my last MMO treated tank of gas before I go back to tc-w3 (Castrol Outboard, bought based on price and easy availability). I do a Regane cycle about every 5,000 km, followed by a few treated tanks with MMO, then back to tc-w3 until the next Regane cycle.
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Which UCL are you using?
Right now I'm on my last MMO treated tank of gas before I go back to tc-w3 (Castrol Outboard, bought based on price and easy availability). I do a Regane cycle about every 5,000 km, followed by a few treated tanks with MMO, then back to tc-w3 until the next Regane cycle.
-Spyder
Originally Posted By: BRO1
Would be OK to run this in a newer truck?Or is it for older cars and trucks?
Thanks
You can run it in either. Its an anti-wear additive. The main thing is to work out the initial dose and add the proper amount (so as to avoid too much of a good thing). In my 4 quart sump, that was half of a 300 ml bottle for initial dosing, and a quarter bottle to each oil change after.
You might have to dig a couple pages, but in the VOA forum there is a really good discussion about what this is, what it does, and how much to use.
-Spyder
Would be OK to run this in a newer truck?Or is it for older cars and trucks?
Thanks
You can run it in either. Its an anti-wear additive. The main thing is to work out the initial dose and add the proper amount (so as to avoid too much of a good thing). In my 4 quart sump, that was half of a 300 ml bottle for initial dosing, and a quarter bottle to each oil change after.
You might have to dig a couple pages, but in the VOA forum there is a really good discussion about what this is, what it does, and how much to use.
-Spyder
2 out of my last 3 dipstick oil checks, including my most recent, showed the oil level still at the full mark - each was done during the usual interval when I'd expect, based on consumption history, to add a quarter to half quart of top up.
I will need to put about another thousand miles to verify and track consumption further, but this is a good sign. I have approached the oil consumption problem, to date, only by taking steps to clean the engine (using PP 5W30 treated with a 10% MMO additive to act as a catalyst to aid this method of safe cleaning), lubricate the upper cylinder (both MMO and TC-W3 have been cycled independently), and adding mos2. The 5W30 is the grade recommended by the OEM, so no thicker oil or use of HDEO has been tried to date, nor an HM oil OC.
I consider the last methods viable approaches, but last resort ones. Going to give the approach I'm taking until Spring to trend consumption usage and give it time to work, before considering the latter methods.
This is still very preliminary, but its a good sign and it would be a nice byproduct of the chosen additives. Note that peak consumption since buying the car in May has been significant, at one quart over a 1,200 mile interval; but not past what I considered the point of no return, where consumption is so high that no approach will likely yield any results. High enough to be close to that point though, so I have been prepared all along for worse case scenario where my efforts lead only to halting further increases in consumption, but do little to reverse the process.
Edit: I should add that the very first step taken, before beginning the approach taken, was mechanical: my engine had sludged, and this may have had a negative effect on consumption, due to a gummed PCV valve that I replaced. Replacing the valve in and of itself did not reduce consumption, but that was a first and necessary step taken before the use of additives. Where possible, IMHO, its always better to address the cause than treat the symptoms or try and mask the problem.
-Spyder
I will need to put about another thousand miles to verify and track consumption further, but this is a good sign. I have approached the oil consumption problem, to date, only by taking steps to clean the engine (using PP 5W30 treated with a 10% MMO additive to act as a catalyst to aid this method of safe cleaning), lubricate the upper cylinder (both MMO and TC-W3 have been cycled independently), and adding mos2. The 5W30 is the grade recommended by the OEM, so no thicker oil or use of HDEO has been tried to date, nor an HM oil OC.
I consider the last methods viable approaches, but last resort ones. Going to give the approach I'm taking until Spring to trend consumption usage and give it time to work, before considering the latter methods.
This is still very preliminary, but its a good sign and it would be a nice byproduct of the chosen additives. Note that peak consumption since buying the car in May has been significant, at one quart over a 1,200 mile interval; but not past what I considered the point of no return, where consumption is so high that no approach will likely yield any results. High enough to be close to that point though, so I have been prepared all along for worse case scenario where my efforts lead only to halting further increases in consumption, but do little to reverse the process.
Edit: I should add that the very first step taken, before beginning the approach taken, was mechanical: my engine had sludged, and this may have had a negative effect on consumption, due to a gummed PCV valve that I replaced. Replacing the valve in and of itself did not reduce consumption, but that was a first and necessary step taken before the use of additives. Where possible, IMHO, its always better to address the cause than treat the symptoms or try and mask the problem.
-Spyder
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Originally Posted By: Spyder7
2 out of my last 3 dipstick oil checks, including my most recent, showed the oil level still at the full mark - each was done during the usual interval when I'd expect, based on consumption history, to add a quarter to half quart of top up.
I will need to put about another thousand miles to verify and track consumption further, but this is a good sign. I have approached the oil consumption problem, to date, only by taking steps to clean the engine (using PP 5W30 treated with a 10% MMO additive to act as a catalyst to aid this method of safe cleaning), lubricate the upper cylinder (both MMO and TC-W3 have been cycled independently), and adding mos2. The 5W30 is the grade recommended by the OEM, so no thicker oil or use of HDEO has been tried to date, nor an HM oil OC.
I consider the last methods viable approaches, but last resort ones. Going to give the approach I'm taking until Spring to trend consumption usage and give it time to work, before considering the latter methods.
This is still very preliminary, but its a good sign and it would be a nice byproduct of the chosen additives. Note that peak consumption since buying the car in May has been significant, at one quart over a 1,200 mile interval; but not past what I considered the point of no return, where consumption is so high that no approach will likely yield any results. High enough to be close to that point though, so I have been prepared all along for worse case scenario where my efforts lead only to halting further increases in consumption, but do little to reverse the process.
Edit: I should add that the very first step taken, before beginning the approach taken, was mechanical: my engine had sludged, and this may have had a negative effect on consumption, due to a gummed PCV valve that I replaced. Replacing the valve in and of itself did not reduce consumption, but that was a first and necessary step taken before the use of additives. Where possible, IMHO, its always better to address the cause than treat the symptoms or try and mask the problem.
-Spyder
My car runs smoother with Mos2. I need no other testing. This ocmpany is very higly rated by car guys everywhere.
Based on my experiece, I may try some of their other products. As needed of course
2 out of my last 3 dipstick oil checks, including my most recent, showed the oil level still at the full mark - each was done during the usual interval when I'd expect, based on consumption history, to add a quarter to half quart of top up.
I will need to put about another thousand miles to verify and track consumption further, but this is a good sign. I have approached the oil consumption problem, to date, only by taking steps to clean the engine (using PP 5W30 treated with a 10% MMO additive to act as a catalyst to aid this method of safe cleaning), lubricate the upper cylinder (both MMO and TC-W3 have been cycled independently), and adding mos2. The 5W30 is the grade recommended by the OEM, so no thicker oil or use of HDEO has been tried to date, nor an HM oil OC.
I consider the last methods viable approaches, but last resort ones. Going to give the approach I'm taking until Spring to trend consumption usage and give it time to work, before considering the latter methods.
This is still very preliminary, but its a good sign and it would be a nice byproduct of the chosen additives. Note that peak consumption since buying the car in May has been significant, at one quart over a 1,200 mile interval; but not past what I considered the point of no return, where consumption is so high that no approach will likely yield any results. High enough to be close to that point though, so I have been prepared all along for worse case scenario where my efforts lead only to halting further increases in consumption, but do little to reverse the process.
Edit: I should add that the very first step taken, before beginning the approach taken, was mechanical: my engine had sludged, and this may have had a negative effect on consumption, due to a gummed PCV valve that I replaced. Replacing the valve in and of itself did not reduce consumption, but that was a first and necessary step taken before the use of additives. Where possible, IMHO, its always better to address the cause than treat the symptoms or try and mask the problem.
-Spyder
My car runs smoother with Mos2. I need no other testing. This ocmpany is very higly rated by car guys everywhere.
Based on my experiece, I may try some of their other products. As needed of course
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I agree. LM mos2 will be added to each OC for the life of this car, and to the oil in any subsequent vehicles I buy. If consumption is higher than an acceptable level by my Spring OC, their Motor Oil Saver product is an additional candidate that I'm looking at adding then. This will be in addition to mos2 and in place of an HM oil.
They are a good company. A rare breed of the genuine article in a market dominated by snake oil salesmen.
-Spyder
They are a good company. A rare breed of the genuine article in a market dominated by snake oil salesmen.
-Spyder
I use the moS2 in car,lawnmower.works great smoother quieted lifter tick lawnmower does not smoke anymore.
ON THE main page of bitog. there is a moly column, that is informative.
GO SOONERS!!!!!!!
ON THE main page of bitog. there is a moly column, that is informative.
GO SOONERS!!!!!!!
I finally got some LM MOS2 at Napa auto parts. My Napa dealer isn't very bright. For the longest time they claim they couldn't get it. Then someone on here said I could order it online and have it sent to the store. I ordered it 2 days ago and picked it up today. The guy working there had no clue what was going on. They also charged my $0.75 more than the price on their website, but at least I have some.
Originally Posted By: Spyder7
I agree. LM mos2 will be added to each OC for the life of this car, and to the oil in any subsequent vehicles I buy. If consumption is higher than an acceptable level by my Spring OC, their Motor Oil Saver product is an additional candidate that I'm looking at adding then. This will be in addition to mos2 and in place of an HM oil.
They are a good company. A rare breed of the genuine article in a market dominated by snake oil salesmen.
-Spyder
Lubro Moly is a good company with many good products, but their marketing in North America is needed to improve, there is no local stores but Napa is selling their products, while the snake oils (Lucas as an example) are everywhere.
If more stores are carrying Lobro Moly products I would try the MoS2 in one of my cars, I hate driving more than 30 miles round trip just to buy a couple bottles MoS2.
I agree. LM mos2 will be added to each OC for the life of this car, and to the oil in any subsequent vehicles I buy. If consumption is higher than an acceptable level by my Spring OC, their Motor Oil Saver product is an additional candidate that I'm looking at adding then. This will be in addition to mos2 and in place of an HM oil.
They are a good company. A rare breed of the genuine article in a market dominated by snake oil salesmen.
-Spyder
Lubro Moly is a good company with many good products, but their marketing in North America is needed to improve, there is no local stores but Napa is selling their products, while the snake oils (Lucas as an example) are everywhere.
If more stores are carrying Lobro Moly products I would try the MoS2 in one of my cars, I hate driving more than 30 miles round trip just to buy a couple bottles MoS2.
I would be willing to try LubroMoly based on what I have found out here, but my local NAPA store does not carry it. Someday when I am in a nearby city located about 30 miles away I might check and see if the NAPA store there has it. But I will not drive there for that reason alone. I will wait until I will be going there anyway.
When I first checked for it, they had no clue what I was talking about, and said they didn't carry it. After getting the right part and line number from another member, I called them back, and when I gave them that they suddenly had in stock. They stock it, but don`t sell much of it here so they keep it stocked only in the back shelves of the store.
Its a nice additive, and I am looking at other products by them too, although for now just staying on the current additive cycle.
Its a nice additive, and I am looking at other products by them too, although for now just staying on the current additive cycle.
Similar situation in my redneck of the woods. Local NAPA was clueless during my inquiry on Lubro Moly products at their store, until the phone was passed to the store manager. Humorous side note in that as I requested LM, 5W-40 synthoil premium, the manager stated several times that often customers will arrive to his store ask for a synthetic oil that meets their German manufactured car's specs. He then goes to retrieve the same oil that I buy above and when they look at the price they reel in horror. He then finishes the story by saying the leave the store with any ol oil to fill the crankcase of their VW or Audi's. LOLing at these people everyday.
Originally Posted By: Spyder7
When I first checked for it, they had no clue what I was talking about, and said they didn't carry it. After getting the right part and line number from another member, I called them back, and when I gave them that they suddenly had in stock. They stock it, but don`t sell much of it here so they keep it stocked only in the back shelves of the store.
Its a nice additive, and I am looking at other products by them too, although for now just staying on the current additive cycle.
Originally Posted By: Spyder7
When I first checked for it, they had no clue what I was talking about, and said they didn't carry it. After getting the right part and line number from another member, I called them back, and when I gave them that they suddenly had in stock. They stock it, but don`t sell much of it here so they keep it stocked only in the back shelves of the store.
Its a nice additive, and I am looking at other products by them too, although for now just staying on the current additive cycle.
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