Lubro/Liqui Moly Oil Saver Additive with MoS2 Oil

[landtoy80]

I am trying Lubro/Liqui Moly products for the first time. I have 368,000 mi on a 94 Land Cruiser and Liqui Moly said to try their Oil Saver oil additive with their MoS2 10w40 motor oil. I have a bit of start up blue smoke. They said to try both products and there "Might" be a chance that it will help. My question is does the MoS2 10w40 oil have the same additive as their MoS2 oil additive? I would assume so but I have to ask. Their TopTec 4100 oil is labeled "Smoke Free" on their web site. When I asked what they mean by being smoke free, they had no idea what I was talking about in regards to their oil being smoke free. Its a low ash oil where the translation from German to English must of messed up.

 

[zyxelenator]

TopTec series made for new specs, long drains and new diesels. MoS2 10w-40 for older and worn engines. I used it ones, not bad at all. Has lots of moly and same grey/silver color as their additive.

 

[zyxelenator]

 

[JHZR2]

If you have small pinhole type leaks, solid MoS2 may plug them! Personally, I'd go with a proven HM oil like M1 10w-40 HM and then add the MoS2 into it.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2

If you have small pinhole type leaks, solid MoS2 may plug them! Personally, I'd go with a proven HM oil like M1 10w-40 HM and then add the MoS2 into it.

Why? I would use the already blended stuff. I would assume their chemists formulated the product to work the way it comes. Without adding anything.

 

[ltslimjim]

I like the idea of MoS2 on a car with small leaks. If it helps it helps, keep using it or see if it stays 'less leaky' after use. I have questions as to whether MoS2 would affect the VTEC system or the bearing passageways like in my older Civic?

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: ltslimjim

I have questions as to whether MoS2 would affect the VTEC system or the bearing passageways like in my older Civic?

Shoot them an email and let them tell you. This way you'll be 100% certain.

 

[zyxelenator]

Or try it,$5 not gonna kill you or your engine in 1 can. Oils have moly blended in from factory and you know it.Nothing negative wilbe done. Unless you put 3 cans in 4q sump but even in this case engine might function fine(moly has property of emergency lubrication even if you punctured oil pan and lost all your oil)

 

[Trav]

Quote:

I have questions as to whether MoS2 would affect the VTEC system or the bearing passageways like in my older Civic?

100% absolutely not! The particles do not congeal or fall out and are small enough to pass through the oil filter. Tens of thousands of cars have run this product every day in Europe with vtec, turbo, ivtec, etc without issue. The only issue is slippage in wet clutches.

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: Clevy

Originally Posted By: JHZR2

If you have small pinhole type leaks, solid MoS2 may plug them! Personally, I'd go with a proven HM oil like M1 10w-40 HM and then add the MoS2 into it.

Why? I would use the already blended stuff. I would assume their chemists formulated the product to work the way it comes. Without adding anything.

Why? Do you know the specific MoS2 loading in the formulated oil? I'm looking for fine particles, not soluble variants. Can you confirm the type in there? Can you confirm that the LM oil actually has seal swell agents to help with the other condition that the OP may be encountering? Tons of people have used MoS2 supplement with fine results, and the HM oil will offer a chemistry that the OP would not otherwise get. I'm running this blend it works. That's why.

 

[ltslimjim]

Originally Posted By: Trav

Quote:

I have questions as to whether MoS2 would affect the VTEC system or the bearing passageways like in my older Civic?

100% absolutely not! The particles do not congeal or fall out and are small enough to pass through the oil filter. Tens of thousands of cars have run this product every day in Europe with vtec, turbo, ivtec, etc without issue. The only issue is slippage in wet clutches.

Cool. I needed to hear that. I'm thinking about adding some to this fill of Ultra I have. Almost 1,000 miles in. The plan was add a can after that and go up to 7,500 and sample.

 

[dailydriver]

Why is everyone confusing the LM Motor Oil Saver with LM MOS2, as they are two different products??

 

[ltslimjim]

^The OP asked whether the MoS2 containing 10w-40 product was the same as what comes in the additive can. Not only the Motor Oil Saver, but both is being referred to in the thread, the lingering question(to me) was whether he should add both a can of MoS2 and Motor Oil Saver...that was my impression anyway.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2

Originally Posted By: Clevy

Originally Posted By: JHZR2

If you have small pinhole type leaks, solid MoS2 may plug them! Personally, I'd go with a proven HM oil like M1 10w-40 HM and then add the MoS2 into it.

Why? I would use the already blended stuff. I would assume their chemists formulated the product to work the way it comes. Without adding anything.

Why? Do you know the specific MoS2 loading in the formulated oil? I'm looking for fine particles, not soluble variants. Can you confirm the type in there? Can you confirm that the LM oil actually has seal swell agents to help with the other condition that the OP may be encountering? Tons of people have used MoS2 supplement with fine results, and the HM oil will offer a chemistry that the OP would not otherwise get. I'm running this blend it works. That's why.

Well then keep adding stuff to your oil then. I suppose these oil companies just get their additive packages close enough. Then we as junior tribologists ad stuff to custom tailor it to our specific needs. Send mobil an email. Tell them the millions they spend in engineering this stuff is a waste of their time and money. They could save all that effort by just having you concoct up a brew for them. I can confirm that you can confirm your questions on the liqui-moly website. Just think. A couple of clicks and you can save some time and money by letting experts blend the oil.

 

[JHZR2]

In some cases it does indeed make sense to add certain, proven adds to benefit oils for applications with a specific need. Nothing wrong with it. One size fits most... There is lots of snake oil for sure, but it doesnt mean that some of these things dont have a niche for certain situations and applications.

 

[steve20]

LandLady has 368K on a Colorado vehicle with 17 winters on it. Just keep doing what you were doing in the past-it has obviously worked very well

 

[Falcon_LS]

Motor Oil Saver is an ester additive, which helps recondition your seals. How long it takes depends on the seal material, but 500 miles is about average. Having said that, there is nothing wrong with mixing the two additives together if that is something you consider doing.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2

In some cases it does indeed make sense to add certain, proven adds to benefit oils for applications with a specific need. Nothing wrong with it. One size fits most... There is lots of snake oil for sure, but it doesnt mean that some of these things dont have a niche for certain situations and applications.

Well spoken, seems LM products fall into this category!

 

[mongo161]

So it looks like there is no Moly in Lubro Moly oil? You must get the MOS2 if you want Moly in your Lubro Moly oil.

 

[landtoy80]

The combo of LP MoS2 and Motor Oil Saver saver reduced the amount of blue start up smoke to almost nothing. I can tell when the Motor Oil Saver wears out after 2000 or 3000 miles as the blue start up smoke comes back. I just add another can of Motor Oil Saver and smoke is reduced. Only problem is its too thick in winter, hard to crank the motor over. I switched back to Rotella T 5w40 for the winter and get blue start up smoke but not on every start up. Must have something to do with where the motor stops and if oil can flow down the worn valve seals. I have 390,000 mi on the Land Cruiser now. I have run Rotalla T 5w40 sense about 230,000 mi on it. I had several leaks and somehow the Rotella T stopped the leaks. After using the MoS2 I found some oil leaks/seeps that started and stopped. The color of the seeps are the color of the MoS2 particles. I will have to see what (if any) leaks there are with the change back to Rotella T. I plan on, when the weather warms up, to run Rotella T and Motor Oil Saver and see what the start up smoke looks like. I don't live in an emission area any more so my quest to prevent blue smoke is not like it was with I live in Denver area.