chevy use the get up and go that you gave at work and invest in yourself.make business cards ,put them up around town.take a swing at making money for your self.get a friend or family member to work together.use unemployment check to buy what you need to start. older people always look for young guys to help work around propety,cleaning,painting,landscaping.believe in your self starting now. nothing to lose,lots to earn.
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I'm sure you'll end up fine. Hardworking guys like you are hard to find. You just have to hook up with the right employer.
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I like the idea of starting your own business, and pop gave some great advice. I have to wonder if there is a happy medium where you can start doing work, have the paperwork and professional stature, but not yet have all the fanciest stuff or bonding. Something on the level where you are paying taxes yet have a contractual removal of liability and details of what you will do. Start keeping a ledger, make profit-loss calculations in excel, and see what you can do.
Run the thing barebones, save up the funds, then make things really on the level as you have the ability.
I'd imagine tht if you start with some real small businesses - pizza joints, small stores that have a public bathroom, etc., the kind of place where the owner does the dirty work and would be happy to pay a nominal fee, $10 say, for you to come arou d and scrub the bathroom and move some trash, it may be worth it to them. Remember though that at least to start, you can't much out price an illegal or a high school student, so be careful! You're giving these small guys more time doing what they are good at, but without a huge outlay. Then you can develop trust, support other odd jobs, and grow from there.
Run the thing barebones, save up the funds, then make things really on the level as you have the ability.
I'd imagine tht if you start with some real small businesses - pizza joints, small stores that have a public bathroom, etc., the kind of place where the owner does the dirty work and would be happy to pay a nominal fee, $10 say, for you to come arou d and scrub the bathroom and move some trash, it may be worth it to them. Remember though that at least to start, you can't much out price an illegal or a high school student, so be careful! You're giving these small guys more time doing what they are good at, but without a huge outlay. Then you can develop trust, support other odd jobs, and grow from there.
Originally Posted By: 65cuda
Just a thought but might want to check on a no compete clause when you hired in. I know my son was going to start a business, but couldn't unless he waited six months or a year after leaving.
They don't sound that organized.
As for the insurance and bonding... was the Mayflower covered by Lloyds of London? Did the Moon Rover have Roadside Assistance? Take a few risks! You have the greatest insurance in the world, and don't take this the wrong way: the appearance of poverty. Noone is going to sue a 21 year old who cleans the floor and drives a 15 year old saturn.
As for the office where you used to work as a contractor, see if they'll hire you as a W2'd employee. Then they have to deal with workers comp insurance and all that.
Just a thought but might want to check on a no compete clause when you hired in. I know my son was going to start a business, but couldn't unless he waited six months or a year after leaving.
They don't sound that organized.
As for the insurance and bonding... was the Mayflower covered by Lloyds of London? Did the Moon Rover have Roadside Assistance? Take a few risks! You have the greatest insurance in the world, and don't take this the wrong way: the appearance of poverty. Noone is going to sue a 21 year old who cleans the floor and drives a 15 year old saturn.
As for the office where you used to work as a contractor, see if they'll hire you as a W2'd employee. Then they have to deal with workers comp insurance and all that.
Non compete clause cannot be enforced under most circumstances in Florida due to right to work laws.
Check your legal requirements. Just because you signed it doesn't make it enforceable.
Check your legal requirements. Just because you signed it doesn't make it enforceable.
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Non compete clause cannot be enforced under most circumstances in Florida due to right to work laws.
Check your legal requirements. Just because you signed it doesn't make it enforceable.
That's not correct.
With a few exceptions, Florida law does prohibit restraints on trade. One of those exceptions is non-compete agreements that meet the requirements of Florida Statute 542.335 (this governs non-competes entered into after July 1, 1996 - Florida Statute 542.33 applies to non-competes entered into before then). These requirements can be summarized as follows:
The non-compete must be reasonable in time, area, and line of business.
Legitimate business interests must exist that justify the restrictive covenant.
The non-compete must be reasonably necessary to protect the legitimate business interests.
The statute provides a non-exhaustive list of "legitimate business interests". These include: trade secrets; confidential business information, substantial relationships with specific prospective or existing customers, and extraordinary or specialized training. Typically, trade secrets and other confidential information are claimed as the "legitimate business interests."
Florida’s statute provides some guidance as to whether the duration is "presumptively" reasonable and unreasonable. For instance, in the case of an employment non-compete – less than 6 months is presumptively reasonable and more than 2 years is presumptively unreasonable (may vary depending upon the subsection). Anything in between may, or may not, be reasonable, depending on the facts and circumstances.
There is also a common misperception that there exists a bright-line rule prohibiting an employer from enforcing a restrictive covenant against any employee who has been involuntarily terminated "without cause."
Some case law and commentaries allude to such a bright-line rule, but they are mistaken. A recent case demonstrates the error of this common misperception. In Morris v. Schroder Capital Management International, 2006 Slip Op. 08638, 2006 WL 3359077 (N.Y. Nov. 21, 2006), the Court of Appeals underscored the notion that a restrictive covenant applicable to a former employee who has been terminated involuntarily and without cause can be subject to the traditional test of whether it is "reasonable," and thus may be enforceable despite the involuntary termination. In short, there is no bright-line rule invalidating restrictive employment covenants in all cases of "without cause" terminations.
Non compete clause cannot be enforced under most circumstances in Florida due to right to work laws.
Check your legal requirements. Just because you signed it doesn't make it enforceable.
That's not correct.
With a few exceptions, Florida law does prohibit restraints on trade. One of those exceptions is non-compete agreements that meet the requirements of Florida Statute 542.335 (this governs non-competes entered into after July 1, 1996 - Florida Statute 542.33 applies to non-competes entered into before then). These requirements can be summarized as follows:
The non-compete must be reasonable in time, area, and line of business.
Legitimate business interests must exist that justify the restrictive covenant.
The non-compete must be reasonably necessary to protect the legitimate business interests.
The statute provides a non-exhaustive list of "legitimate business interests". These include: trade secrets; confidential business information, substantial relationships with specific prospective or existing customers, and extraordinary or specialized training. Typically, trade secrets and other confidential information are claimed as the "legitimate business interests."
Florida’s statute provides some guidance as to whether the duration is "presumptively" reasonable and unreasonable. For instance, in the case of an employment non-compete – less than 6 months is presumptively reasonable and more than 2 years is presumptively unreasonable (may vary depending upon the subsection). Anything in between may, or may not, be reasonable, depending on the facts and circumstances.
There is also a common misperception that there exists a bright-line rule prohibiting an employer from enforcing a restrictive covenant against any employee who has been involuntarily terminated "without cause."
Some case law and commentaries allude to such a bright-line rule, but they are mistaken. A recent case demonstrates the error of this common misperception. In Morris v. Schroder Capital Management International, 2006 Slip Op. 08638, 2006 WL 3359077 (N.Y. Nov. 21, 2006), the Court of Appeals underscored the notion that a restrictive covenant applicable to a former employee who has been terminated involuntarily and without cause can be subject to the traditional test of whether it is "reasonable," and thus may be enforceable despite the involuntary termination. In short, there is no bright-line rule invalidating restrictive employment covenants in all cases of "without cause" terminations.
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Really sorry to hear this.
Never forget one thing: you're not the one who screwed this up. You still pack the same goods as you did yesterday. Keep your head up and this will be nothing but a bump in the road.
But next time around, make yourself indispensable.
And listen to Pop Rivit. That man's got a real head on his shoulders.
Really sorry to hear this.
Never forget one thing: you're not the one who screwed this up. You still pack the same goods as you did yesterday. Keep your head up and this will be nothing but a bump in the road.
But next time around, make yourself indispensable.
And listen to Pop Rivit. That man's got a real head on his shoulders.
Yes, he does. But I specifically was sued by a previous employer for both violation of a non-compete and tortious interference.
I prevailed easily, as it was the only work I had done my whole life and the judge stated that I was free and clear to pursue my trade as I wished.
Very simply, each case is unique, but Florida allows workers to be freed from non-compete contracts under specific circumstances.
I prevailed easily, as it was the only work I had done my whole life and the judge stated that I was free and clear to pursue my trade as I wished.
Very simply, each case is unique, but Florida allows workers to be freed from non-compete contracts under specific circumstances.
sounds to me you dont need that co. find a better one. i know you can. i think youll find a better job. ill be pulling for you.
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Originally Posted By: 65cuda
Just a thought but might want to check on a no compete clause when you hired in. I know my son was going to start a business, but couldn't unless he waited six months or a year after leaving.
They don't sound that organized.
As for the insurance and bonding... was the Mayflower covered by Lloyds of London? Did the Moon Rover have Roadside Assistance? Take a few risks! You have the greatest insurance in the world, and don't take this the wrong way: the appearance of poverty. Noone is going to sue a 21 year old who cleans the floor and drives a 15 year old saturn.
As for the office where you used to work as a contractor, see if they'll hire you as a W2'd employee. Then they have to deal with workers comp insurance and all that.
Sorry but they don't have to be organized to have one. Just threw out as a just in case deal. When it comes to someone opening a competing business then it doesn't matter how old the person is that is trying to start one. The last thing a business that is poorly ran wants is someone starting a business that will take away from their business and what few good employees that they have. My son had a lawyer look into the no compete and the lawyer said that it is valid. If you choose not to then that is fine. No skin off my back.
Originally Posted By: 65cuda
Just a thought but might want to check on a no compete clause when you hired in. I know my son was going to start a business, but couldn't unless he waited six months or a year after leaving.
They don't sound that organized.
As for the insurance and bonding... was the Mayflower covered by Lloyds of London? Did the Moon Rover have Roadside Assistance? Take a few risks! You have the greatest insurance in the world, and don't take this the wrong way: the appearance of poverty. Noone is going to sue a 21 year old who cleans the floor and drives a 15 year old saturn.
As for the office where you used to work as a contractor, see if they'll hire you as a W2'd employee. Then they have to deal with workers comp insurance and all that.
Sorry but they don't have to be organized to have one. Just threw out as a just in case deal. When it comes to someone opening a competing business then it doesn't matter how old the person is that is trying to start one. The last thing a business that is poorly ran wants is someone starting a business that will take away from their business and what few good employees that they have. My son had a lawyer look into the no compete and the lawyer said that it is valid. If you choose not to then that is fine. No skin off my back.
Here is an idea and right now its wide open here and my step son is BOOKED. Its kind of janitorial so your covered there and fairly easy and inexpensive to get started..... He has a small business working for the various real estate offices. What he does is clean up yards and houses to get ready for market or houses already on the market for better curb appeal.
i have interview tonight for a delivery driver position at dominos. i just put in my application yesterday and come to find out the GM is my old neighbor. i helped him A LOT with his car and his wifes and giving him rides. so i am hoping maybe i can cash in on those favors and land me a job. of course a delivery driver isn't ideal but it is something.
Originally Posted By: Blaze
Here is an idea and right now its wide open here and my step son is BOOKED. Its kind of janitorial so your covered there and fairly easy and inexpensive to get started..... He has a small business working for the various real estate offices. What he does is clean up yards and houses to get ready for market or houses already on the market for better curb appeal.
Great idea!
We have a few such people that advertise in the local paper, they seem quite busy.
It's not only Real Estate, Landlords need services like this as well as many seniors, Heck, any home owner that hasn't access to a truck.
Here is an idea and right now its wide open here and my step son is BOOKED. Its kind of janitorial so your covered there and fairly easy and inexpensive to get started..... He has a small business working for the various real estate offices. What he does is clean up yards and houses to get ready for market or houses already on the market for better curb appeal.
Great idea!
We have a few such people that advertise in the local paper, they seem quite busy.
It's not only Real Estate, Landlords need services like this as well as many seniors, Heck, any home owner that hasn't access to a truck.
Originally Posted By: Blaze
Here is an idea and right now its wide open here and my step son is BOOKED. Its kind of janitorial so your covered there and fairly easy and inexpensive to get started..... He has a small business working for the various real estate offices. What he does is clean up yards and houses to get ready for market or houses already on the market for better curb appeal.
Property preservation isn't all peachy, it's pretty tough work. You're working in sometimes filthy houses that have no heat or a/c. The yards are often severely overgrown, and the bank wants it to be bagged, edged, and perfect for $40. The banks are cheapskates.
Here is an idea and right now its wide open here and my step son is BOOKED. Its kind of janitorial so your covered there and fairly easy and inexpensive to get started..... He has a small business working for the various real estate offices. What he does is clean up yards and houses to get ready for market or houses already on the market for better curb appeal.
Property preservation isn't all peachy, it's pretty tough work. You're working in sometimes filthy houses that have no heat or a/c. The yards are often severely overgrown, and the bank wants it to be bagged, edged, and perfect for $40. The banks are cheapskates.
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
i have interview tonight for a delivery driver position at dominos. i just put in my application yesterday and come to find out the GM is my old neighbor. i helped him A LOT with his car and his wifes and giving him rides. so i am hoping maybe i can cash in on those favors and land me a job. of course a delivery driver isn't ideal but it is something.
In college my brother had his first child. He delivered Pizza's, worked at a hardware store,etc. while attending school and taking care of his family. It was a tough road, but he took responsibility and it worked out. He even got a ticket while delivering Pizza's in his Pinto (but he was going down hill).
Somehow I see you doing something with cars. Parts store, changing oil, working on cars, etc. For now it is making ends meet. I believe things work out the way that are meant to. One door closes and another opens. In the long run you X-Boss may have been doing you a favor.
i have interview tonight for a delivery driver position at dominos. i just put in my application yesterday and come to find out the GM is my old neighbor. i helped him A LOT with his car and his wifes and giving him rides. so i am hoping maybe i can cash in on those favors and land me a job. of course a delivery driver isn't ideal but it is something.
In college my brother had his first child. He delivered Pizza's, worked at a hardware store,etc. while attending school and taking care of his family. It was a tough road, but he took responsibility and it worked out. He even got a ticket while delivering Pizza's in his Pinto (but he was going down hill).
Somehow I see you doing something with cars. Parts store, changing oil, working on cars, etc. For now it is making ends meet. I believe things work out the way that are meant to. One door closes and another opens. In the long run you X-Boss may have been doing you a favor.
Yep. One door closes and another opens. Hard working folks seem to land on their feet and find work.
^ true that.
as long as my background check comes back clean....and it will. ill have the job!
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