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Originally Posted By: eljefino
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
got a call from my boss yesterday asking me to leave my access card on my cleaning cart when i was done because new ones were being issued. so i asked how will i get in the building and he said we will meet you and give you a new one.
Classy!
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Chevyboy, I agree with eljefino - that was a [censored] method of removing your position. There are 1000's of companies who are run according to professional rules of employee conduct that wouldn't act in this manner. Sorry to hear about it - hang in there and hope you land on your feet OK.
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To save a dollar they let you go. A literal dollar. Then lie to you and then were prepared to fire you over the phone.
Your employers have no class whatsoever. They did you a favour by letting you go.
A strong back will get you something somewhere. Don't let it get you down. They freed you up to find a greener pasture.
I cannot believe how they let you got. Disgusting.
 
They were going to just take your access card & NOT tell you you were let go?? This site will not let me use the adjectives that would describe lowlifes like that! Keep your chin up, and keep networking (talking) to EVERYONE you can find-maybe you could even fill in as a mechanic (or God forbid, a lube tech) someplace? KEEP TRYING!
 
I would apply for unemployment immediately, maybe your state allows it online. There may be some "waiting days" and minds well get going on them. I would say it was a "cutback of work force". You do not need to say anything about what you heard through the grapevine. Much easier to get UI if your were part of a layoff or cutback than getting fired. Maybe ask you boss for a recommendation for another company. Kind of trick him. If he gives it to you then he would have a hard time latter on saying you were fired and make up some crazy reason. You may or may not choose to use the recommendation. Offer to write one and have him sign it.
 
Originally Posted By: Clevy
To save a dollar they let you go. A literal dollar. Then lie to you and then were prepared to fire you over the phone.
Your employers have no class whatsoever. They did you a favour by letting you go.
A strong back will get you something somewhere. Don't let it get you down. They freed you up to find a greener pasture.
I cannot believe how they let you got. Disgusting.


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It shows you how much they really valued you as an employee. It sucks right now but it will be better in the long run.
 
Hard to see now, but a better job will come up. You'll look back and be thankful.
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i applied for unemployment last night online and today it said it didn't go through so i called waited on the phone for 30 mins to be told call back in 2 days.
 
Originally Posted By: salesrep
Starting your own janitorial business is EXTREMELY inexpensive, a viable option.


+1

You need:

You
Your existing transport
Some cleaning supplies and equipment
Willingness to use the relationship you already have with the customer

I think you'd be surprised by

1) How the reliability you've already shown will be highly valued by them
2) How people will respond to the drive you show to do what it takes to make a living for yourself
 
Originally Posted By: salesrep
Starting your own janitorial business is EXTREMELY inexpensive, a viable option.


That's the best suggestion, chevyboy. I don't know what's all needed to start a business in the States, but I assure you, it won't be terribly difficult.
 
Originally Posted By: Garak


That's the best suggestion, chevyboy. I don't know what's all needed to start a business in the States, but I assure you, it won't be terribly difficult.


I do, since I've started several successful businesses. It's not difficult, but there is a lot of ground work that goes into it before it can actually be a business. Insurance and bonding (pretty much required for janitorial work) isn't cheap. Start-up initial supply costs can be at least a couple thousand dollars, and credit needs to be established before any supply company will extend credit or offer the lowest available price. A janitorial bond for less than 5 employees can run around $4,000-$5,000. Insurance can be $1,000 or more annually, and since he'll be using his vehicle as a commercial vehicle it may very well change his auto insurance costs.

Realistically once could easily spend close to $10,000 before even mopping the first floor.

Of course, one could skimp on the insurance, bonding, etc. But there's an integrity factor-if you were a business owner, would you want an uninsured, unbonded service cleaning your facility? Not a chance.

Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
back to topic, how would i go about starting my own janitorial business? i really dont know.


To do it right is a bit more detailed than others have implied, and there are some start-up costs involved. Most of the steps are the preliminary steps for starting up any business.

1. Select the name for your business that you will legally operate under. Select something that shows you offer cleaning services but still stands out from the many other janitorial service companies in your area.

2. Register your business locally and federally. File an Assumed Name Certificate (which will allow you to open a bank account under your business name) at your local County Clerk’s Office if you are going to operate as a sole proprietorship or partnership. Then obtain your Employer Identification Number for free from the IRS either online (www.irs.gov) or by calling 800-829-4933.

3. Obtain a Sales and Use Tax Permit from the State Comptroller.

4. Write a business agreement that specifies which items or areas you will be responsible for cleaning for your clients. Sign this contract with each client, adding any additional services that you both agree upon.

5. Get a janitorial bond and purchase liability insurance. Liability insurance will add credibility to your business and protect your company if you or one of your employees were to destroy or damage customer property while cleaning.

6. Determine the size and scope of cleanings you will offer. Don’t make the mistake of extending yourself too far when starting out. Tackle small offices or businesses first, expanding as you gain experience and become more efficient.

7. Set your prices by determining whether you’ll charge per square foot, per hour or just set a base price per cleaning job. You will have to estimate the cost of labor and materials until you've cleaned enough buildings to know exact figures. You'll also need to know how and what the competition charges so you don't over or under price yourself in the local market.

8. Design a checklist that you and your employees use during or after a cleaning to ensure you have met your contractual obligations to your client. Detail each task to eliminate confusion and reduce oversights.

9. Purchase supplies based on the type of cleanings you will do. Determine whether you’ll need heavy-duty brooms and mops, industrial strength cleaners, or household products and environmentally conscious cleaners. Consider opening an account with a specialty supplier of janitorial items or a bulk seller.

10. Look for customers. Cold call or visit businesses in your area to market your services. Leave fliers at apartment complexes since they may require move-in or move-out cleanings. Put ads in the paper and on free online directories.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
i applied for unemployment last night online and today it said it didn't go through so i called waited on the phone for 30 mins to be told call back in 2 days.


Even though you don't want assistance from the government (which is admirable), employers pay unemployment taxes for a reason. They can't deny you if there was no misconduct involved.

OTOH, if you're ambitious, you can find something. You like cars; maybe try an auto parts store or something like that.
 
Originally Posted By: Drew99GT
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
i applied for unemployment last night online and today it said it didn't go through so i called waited on the phone for 30 mins to be told call back in 2 days.


Even though you don't want assistance from the government (which is admirable), employers pay unemployment taxes for a reason. They can't deny you if there was no misconduct involved.

OTOH, if you're ambitious, you can find something. You like cars; maybe try an auto parts store or something like that.


Good advice.
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Very sorry to hear this bud
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If you are serious about starting your own business, I'd follow Pop_Rivit's advice, it is sound.

Best of luck.

-Chris
 
i wouldn't mind doing it eventually but i dont have the funds for that right now....its just sad how it all went down. i knew it was a screwy company but i didn't act quick enough. just hope i do find something . i am applying for everything but i hope i find something i may actually enjoy.
 
Originally Posted By: chevyboy14
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I'm only 20
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I saw the "10yr get together pictures" seeing the age demographic of the other members made me feel out of place age wise, I never really put age or a photo in my mind when I see a screen name, just another oil nerd
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Pop_Rivit definitely supplied some good detail there. $10,000 might seem high, but that's not a bad figure, and quite realistic. Fortunately, there's not a huge outlay of startup capital, and appropriate insurance and bonding is essential, but not cheap. $10,000 for startup is quite an attainable figure, and should not be too daunting. The cheapest business I created had startup costs of $100,000, and the rest were well, well north of there.
 
I know a couple that did office cleaning and while they didn't go to the lengths that Pop_Rivit talked about they did get by OK. Some universities have mentors for people with ideas on starting their own business and will help you through the hoops. They should be able to tell you how to get the startup money and the other parts of what was brought up. I would try to go legit from the start if possible to save the possibility of problems. With the one person you have they might be willing to reference you to other businesses. Might even be able to get a startup loan from some of them, maybe in exchange for services. Whatever though you are probably better off away from the company since it is clear they have no ethics.
 
I feel for you
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When I was in college I was called into the bosses office and told my last day would be tomorrow as his nephew just got out of prison and needed a job.

Hoping you find new work soon.
 
I don't know who is building up worse karma, your ex-employer or the guy with the college degree comment.

Either way, you have work ethic and there is not college in the world that can teach that.

The timing right now isn't too bad, a lot of places are hiring seasonal employees. At the very least, you can get your foot in the door, establish your work reputation/ethic and take off from there.
 
Just a thought but might want to check on a no compete clause when you hired in. I know my son was going to start a business, but couldn't unless he waited six months or a year after leaving.
 
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