I just purchased a 2020 Hyundai Palisade. The owners manual specifies 5W-30 ACEA A5 oil. I sold a 2015 Audi Q5 TDI and I have several cases of 5W-30 ACEA C3 oil. Can I use this in the Palisade keeping in mind that the Palisade has a GDI engine? Any advice gratefully appreciated. Thanks!
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That oil is for diesels, I wouldn't use in a gas engine unless it was an emergency.
Should be fine IMO. Unless, of course, there is an issue with running a C3 oil based on Hyundai's recommendation.
Lots of Subaru owners are using C3 oils in WRX's and Forester turbos because they want a high HTHS SN 5W-30. Just don't go crazy on an extended interval. For the 2.0DIT Subaru's, 5,000 miles seems to be safe but 6k miles would be pushing it.
Lots of Subaru owners are using C3 oils in WRX's and Forester turbos because they want a high HTHS SN 5W-30. Just don't go crazy on an extended interval. For the 2.0DIT Subaru's, 5,000 miles seems to be safe but 6k miles would be pushing it.
https://www.oilspecifications.org/acea.php
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ACEA C3 Stable, stay-in-grade Engine Oil with Mid SAPS-Level, intended for use as catalyst compatible Oil at extended Drain Intervals in Vehicles with all Types of modern Aftertreatment Systems and High Performance Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & DI Diesel Engines that are designed to be capable of using Oils with a minimum HTHS Viscosity of 3.5 mPa*s.
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ACEA A5/B5 Stable, stay-in-grade Engine Oil intended for use at extended Drain Intervals in Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & Diesel Engines designed to be capable of using Low Viscosity Oils with HTHS Viscosity of 2.9 to 3.5 mPa*s. These Oils are unsuitable for use in certain Engines - consult vehicle-OEM's owner's manual/handbook in case of doubt.
Hmmmmm.
Seems the C3 intended for use as catalyst compatible Oil at extended Drain Intervals in Vehicles with all Types of modern Aftertreatment Systems and High Performance Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & DI Diesel Engines that are designed to be capable of using Oils with a minimum HTHS Viscosity of 3.5 mPa*s. and the A5 designed to be capable of using Low Viscosity Oils with HTHS Viscosity of 2.9 to 3.5 mPa*s. These Oils are unsuitable for use in certain Engines - consult vehicle-OEM's owner's manual/handbook in case of doubt. --- The C3 seems to be coming in at the thick side right off the bat?
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ACEA C3 Stable, stay-in-grade Engine Oil with Mid SAPS-Level, intended for use as catalyst compatible Oil at extended Drain Intervals in Vehicles with all Types of modern Aftertreatment Systems and High Performance Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & DI Diesel Engines that are designed to be capable of using Oils with a minimum HTHS Viscosity of 3.5 mPa*s.
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ACEA A5/B5 Stable, stay-in-grade Engine Oil intended for use at extended Drain Intervals in Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & Diesel Engines designed to be capable of using Low Viscosity Oils with HTHS Viscosity of 2.9 to 3.5 mPa*s. These Oils are unsuitable for use in certain Engines - consult vehicle-OEM's owner's manual/handbook in case of doubt.
Hmmmmm.
Seems the C3 intended for use as catalyst compatible Oil at extended Drain Intervals in Vehicles with all Types of modern Aftertreatment Systems and High Performance Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & DI Diesel Engines that are designed to be capable of using Oils with a minimum HTHS Viscosity of 3.5 mPa*s. and the A5 designed to be capable of using Low Viscosity Oils with HTHS Viscosity of 2.9 to 3.5 mPa*s. These Oils are unsuitable for use in certain Engines - consult vehicle-OEM's owner's manual/handbook in case of doubt. --- The C3 seems to be coming in at the thick side right off the bat?
The HTHS and kinematic viscosity aspect is why Subaru turbo owner's like them. Keeps both DPF's and cats happy.
Motul X-clean data sheet:
Compatible with catalytic converters and Diesel Particulate Filters (DPF).
Particularly suitable for the latest generation of BMW, MERCEDES, PORSCHE and VAG (VW, AUDI,
SEAT, SKODA) cars.
Suitable also for any type of Diesel or Gasoline engines calling for ACEA C3 lubricant.
Before use always refer to the owner manual or handbook of the vehicle.
M1 5W-30 ESP
Product Description
Mobil 1â„¢ ESP 5W-30 an advanced performance synthetic engine oil designed to help provide exceptional cleaning power, wear protection and overall performance. Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 has been expertly engineered to help prolong the life and maintain the efficiency of emission systems in both diesel and gasoline powered automobiles. Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 meets or exceeds the requirements of many leading industry and car manufacturers' standards required for newer modern diesel and gasoline powered passenger car engines.
Features and Benefits
Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 is made with a proprietary blend of leading edge components formulated to be fully compatible with the latest Diesel Particulate Filters (DPF's) and Gasoline Catalytic Converters (CAT's). Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 has been designed to help deliver outstanding performance and protection in conjunction with fuel economy benefits. Key features and potential benefits include:
Motul X-clean data sheet:
Compatible with catalytic converters and Diesel Particulate Filters (DPF).
Particularly suitable for the latest generation of BMW, MERCEDES, PORSCHE and VAG (VW, AUDI,
SEAT, SKODA) cars.
Suitable also for any type of Diesel or Gasoline engines calling for ACEA C3 lubricant.
Before use always refer to the owner manual or handbook of the vehicle.
M1 5W-30 ESP
Product Description
Mobil 1â„¢ ESP 5W-30 an advanced performance synthetic engine oil designed to help provide exceptional cleaning power, wear protection and overall performance. Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 has been expertly engineered to help prolong the life and maintain the efficiency of emission systems in both diesel and gasoline powered automobiles. Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 meets or exceeds the requirements of many leading industry and car manufacturers' standards required for newer modern diesel and gasoline powered passenger car engines.
Features and Benefits
Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 is made with a proprietary blend of leading edge components formulated to be fully compatible with the latest Diesel Particulate Filters (DPF's) and Gasoline Catalytic Converters (CAT's). Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 has been designed to help deliver outstanding performance and protection in conjunction with fuel economy benefits. Key features and potential benefits include:
Well, yes you can use this oil in your new car. But, I would advise after your warranty. Hyundai is wanting you to use an A5 5w-30 and your oil is C3 (similar to and B4). As noted the C3 has an HTHS >3.5 where the A5 is <3.5. You might see a slight hit on MPG with the C3 but I doubt it.
I think you'd be fine, but in a brand new car where Pennzoil Platinum, Castrol Edge, and several flavors of Mobil 1 are all A5/B5 oils in 5W-30 for mid-$20s for a 5 quart jug, I wouldn't do it if it were mine and the car were under warranty.
Maybe use your C3 oils as top off when needed or in another car(s)?
Maybe use your C3 oils as top off when needed or in another car(s)?
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Where did you buy the C3 oil? Can you exchange it for A5 or get store credit?
I actually didn't buy it. As part of the "dieselgate" settlement, Audi sent me a $500 Visa card. The stipulation was that it had to be used at a VW/Audi dealership. Hence the cases of oil.
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Originally Posted by Clemson
I just purchased a 2020 Hyundai Palisade. The owners manual specifies 5W-30 ACEA A5 oil. I sold a 2015 Audi Q5 TDI and I have several cases of 5W-30 ACEA C3 oil. Can I use this in the Palisade keeping in mind that the Palisade has a GDI engine? Any advice gratefully appreciated. Thanks!
Use it! C3 is going to do fine since US now has ULSG.
I just purchased a 2020 Hyundai Palisade. The owners manual specifies 5W-30 ACEA A5 oil. I sold a 2015 Audi Q5 TDI and I have several cases of 5W-30 ACEA C3 oil. Can I use this in the Palisade keeping in mind that the Palisade has a GDI engine? Any advice gratefully appreciated. Thanks!
Use it! C3 is going to do fine since US now has ULSG.
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Originally Posted by Pelican
That oil is for diesels, I wouldn't use in a gas engine unless it was an emergency.
I just cannot help myself and ask for explanation of this? Please, enlighten us!
That oil is for diesels, I wouldn't use in a gas engine unless it was an emergency.
I just cannot help myself and ask for explanation of this? Please, enlighten us!
First , congrats on the new Palisade ! ... Mobil1 5W30 synthetic is a A5/B5 rated oil as well as Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 synthetic ... I believe they are the only off the shelf , easy to obtain oils from WM that meet the Palisade oil specification requirement .
If you're wanting to follow the warranty requirements to the letter, do not do it. Use a proper A5/B5 5w-30. However, from a lubrication perspective, the C3 oil is perfectly serviceable and suitable for use. Despite there being ULSG, if I were using it, I'd still be cautious about oil change interval given the tendency of GDI to dilute the oil.
How ya liking the new ride? Saw one up close the other day and I loved it...I wasn't able to drive it but man I loved the looks inside and out. Did you choose the Palisade over the Telluride? If yes, what pushed you to the Palisade???
New vehicle. I would definitely run the manufactures required oil. I see no compelling reason to deviate from the manufactures throughout the vehicles life. Ed
Originally Posted by Clemson
I actually didn't buy it. As part of the "dieselgate" settlement, Audi sent me a $500 Visa card. The stipulation was that it had to be used at a VW/Audi dealership. Hence the cases of oil.
Thinking about it, I guess I actually did buy it but I used Audi's money.
I actually didn't buy it. As part of the "dieselgate" settlement, Audi sent me a $500 Visa card. The stipulation was that it had to be used at a VW/Audi dealership. Hence the cases of oil.
Thinking about it, I guess I actually did buy it but I used Audi's money.
Originally Posted by Mad_Hatter
How ya liking the new ride? Saw one up close the other day and I loved it...I wasn't able to drive it but man I loved the looks inside and out. Did you choose the Palisade over the Telluride? If yes, what pushed you to the Palisade???
I actually had a deposit on a Telluride but then the Palisade became available and I got the Limited. There is more technology in the Palisade. It gives up nothing to the Telluride except about 3 cu ft of space in the rear. I don't particularly like the front end of the Palisade but but I have a wife I try to keep happy. She preferred the Palisade look over the "gangster" look of the Telluride. Plus she hated the black wheels in the top trim level of the Telluride and the dealer said take it or leave it. No other option available. I left it!
I did look at the Audi Q7 to replace the Q5 TDI that I had but to get the same options as the Palisade, I would have had to pay $22,000 more.
How ya liking the new ride? Saw one up close the other day and I loved it...I wasn't able to drive it but man I loved the looks inside and out. Did you choose the Palisade over the Telluride? If yes, what pushed you to the Palisade???
I actually had a deposit on a Telluride but then the Palisade became available and I got the Limited. There is more technology in the Palisade. It gives up nothing to the Telluride except about 3 cu ft of space in the rear. I don't particularly like the front end of the Palisade but but I have a wife I try to keep happy. She preferred the Palisade look over the "gangster" look of the Telluride. Plus she hated the black wheels in the top trim level of the Telluride and the dealer said take it or leave it. No other option available. I left it!
I did look at the Audi Q7 to replace the Q5 TDI that I had but to get the same options as the Palisade, I would have had to pay $22,000 more.
Originally Posted by ka9mnx
Well, yes you can use this oil in your new car. But, I would advise after your warranty. Hyundai is wanting you to use an A5 5w-30 and your oil is C3 (similar to and B4). As noted the C3 has an HTHS >3.5 where the A5 is div>
Castrol maild me about the a5,its a 2.9hths.
Well, yes you can use this oil in your new car. But, I would advise after your warranty. Hyundai is wanting you to use an A5 5w-30 and your oil is C3 (similar to and B4). As noted the C3 has an HTHS >3.5 where the A5 is div>
Castrol maild me about the a5,its a 2.9hths.
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