Looking at a 2015 Tahoe LT

[ddombrowski]

Originally Posted By: Ramblejam
Look at the comparison test I posted above:

Expedition is in the center, Tahoe on the right. Max points available on the left.

I'm a Suburban owner myself, but given what you're looking for, the Ford seems to be the easy decision here between these two.



THanks. I just see a white box, our filter at work blocks a bunch of stuff. I will have to check it out on my phone later.

 

[JTK]

dd- If you're running out of room for a family of 4 with something Honda Pilot sized, I just can't see how something along the lines of a Tahoe is going to be that much better. Obviously they're bigger, but that much more in terms of rear storage if you're running short now?

I'd love a Suburban or the likes for my family of 6, but our Grand Caravan suffices quite awesomely.

 

[ddombrowski]

Originally Posted By: JTK
dd- If you're running out of room for a family of 4 with something Honda Pilot sized, I just can't see how something along the lines of a Tahoe is going to be that much better. Obviously they're bigger, but that much more in terms of rear storage if you're running short now?

I'd love a Suburban or the likes for my family of 6, but our Grand Caravan suffices quite awesomely.


The minivan isn't off the table completely and it actually does offer more rear cargo space than the Tahoe. On paper the tahoe only has a few extra cu ft of cargo room behind the 2nd row, and yet in person it just seems so much bigger than the throughout the entire interior.

We don't need a ton more room, just enough to have more luggage in the back with the dog.

We've driven the Odyssey, and it wouldn't make for a bad solution. I think my wife would prefer driving the Tahoe/Expedition on a daily basis if it offers enough space. Thats her call, she's the one that will be driving the thing most of the time.

 

[Huie83]

Just get a minivan. Unless you need something that can tow, getting a Tahoe or SUV as a family hauler makes no sense.

We got rid of our 2013 Explorer recently and picked up a Toyota Sienna. There is no comparison, better use of space in the back with the deep well storage area, sliding doors, captains chairs, the nice ride etc. Not to mention they are ~$10K less than a Tahoe and get better gas mileage. It's really nice to be able to pop the doors open with the fob, let the kids climb in on their own and then buckle them up without having to lean in a SUV.

Also, as your kids get older they will want to bring friends along to stuff. Having to flip the 2nd row seats etc so the kids can get into the 3rd row gets old quick. Even my 9 and 10 year old couldn't flip he 2nd row in our Explorer half of the time. That means your kids/friends/family are standing in the street/rain/whatever while you flip the seats and get everyone situated. It sucked.

Go test drive some more minivans with the kids in tow, bet you'll buy one

 

[Tahoe4Life]

Originally Posted By: ddombrowski
Originally Posted By: FORD4LIFE


Looked at used CPO 2016 LT Tahoes and the price of this one was 4K bucks more at Shumacher Chevy in Palm Beach.



Woah, really? We're neighbors. Thats where my wife went to test drive the Tahoes a few weeks ago. I'm up in Jupiter.

Regarding the new being 4K more than the CPO, are you talking about after negotiation? I don't have a feel for the spread between final price and MSRP on large SUVs, but I understand it to be pretty big.

I looked at a couple of 2015 CPOs which were in the 36-38k range, where as the new ones were stickering at 50+. I'd be interested to know what you paid for yours. I suppose I could always check out truecar as well, I just went into it figuring we'd be getting a CPO used car.

We were set on 2015 and up on the Tahoe for the facelift on the front. Don't care too much about wifi but it might be nice to have.


This Shumacher was the one on North Lake Blvd.

The used 2015&2016 all had between 43-50K miles and had a lot of dings on them. Most [if not all] were former rentals. The dealer [as well as Enterprise rental sales] all wanted between 34K-47K bucks for them before negotiations. Very rare would come down on the set price. The new on I got was 48K and that one has the luxury package. Really was not looking for all that stuff but saw the add on line and went to check it out and came home with it. Mine is Summit white with Coca Dune [light tan] interior.

I am on my way to Booklyn NY right now. It is definitely a great long distance vehicle. Can go for almost 500 miles between fill ups. Love the height and takes the rough roads well.

OffLEASE.COM sells the 2015-2016 Tahoes a lot cheaper. The down side is a lot of those vehicles were in nasty accidents.

 

[milehigh]

We have a 16 Odyssey and its absolutely fabulous for our 3 kids. Sliding doors are fantastic for quick in/out and no worries about dinging the cars next to us. We did the midsize SUV thing (CX-9) and while is was a great vehicle all around, the minivan wins hands down with kids and stuff. We leased ours but it was 30.5k new and nicely optioned (2016 only SE model). We average 22mpg in mostly city routine driving, upwards to 28+ on the highway.

 

[JTK]

I know my wife preferred our 2008 Odyssey LX over our current 2013 Grand Caravan, but she admits the GC has better visibility, better braking, better in the snow and more power. She thought the Ody was more comfortable and liked the layout better.

 

[userfriendly]

The Yahoe and Tukon are basically 1500 trucks with station wagon bodies and the potential to go a million miles.
I'm not 100%, but the 6.2L Tucon Denali might have an Eaton G80 locker/8 speed auto just like the 1500 6.2L.

 

[Ramblejam]

Originally Posted By: userfriendly
The Yahoe and Tukon are basically 1500 trucks with station wagon bodies


Tahoe/Yukon = Hatchback
Suburban/Yukon XL = Wagon

 

[Indydriver]

I love my Tahoe but there is precious little luggage space behind the third row. We have a Sienna minivan which CAN NOT be beat for people hauling. You just have to get over the stigma or, get the Suburban.

 

[userfriendly]

We have gotten so used to looking at small cars & mini-vans, that the Suburban and other full sized SUVs look monstrous.
Park a Suburban next to a single, regular cab 1500 Chevy truck. They both look to be about the same size.
Now park a regular cab pick up or a Suburban next to a long box crew cab 3500, and they both look tiny in comparison.

 

[ddombrowski]

Well, my wife went out and drove a bunch of cars yesterday to help narrow it down.

She put the nail in the coffin on the minivan. Says she doesn't like it and doesn't want one. So, thats that.

She says she felt no difference in the way that the expedition drove vs the tahoe. I find that somewhat surprising, but I guess she just didn't notice anything.

She drove the Durango and loved it. The one she test drove was spec'd at 44k, new. I'm not familiar with pricing and options on the durango, yet.

So we're between the Durango, Tahoe, and Expedition. We're currently putting the line in the water at a few dealers that we are looking for new or low mile CPO cars. Hopefully we can see some nice prices buying at the end of the year.

 

[OVERKILL]

You should be able to get a relatively new Chrysler corporate Durango, these are employee vehicles, well optioned, and typically low mileage for fair bit less than sticker on a new one, FWIW.

My wife loved the Durango too, that's how we ended up with one, LOL!

 

[4WD]

Had both - the Tahoe is much more agile than the Chevy Neighborhood

 

[ddombrowski]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
You should be able to get a relatively new Chrysler corporate Durango, these are employee vehicles, well optioned, and typically low mileage for fair bit less than sticker on a new one, FWIW.

My wife loved the Durango too, that's how we ended up with one, LOL!

Interesting - how do I find these? I did a search for 2014+ CPO durangos within 100 miles and found 0.

 

[Huie83]

I found my last VW which was a prior corporate vehicle by just searching for current model year, low mileage vehicles on cars.com or whatever site you like to use. Then just call the dealer and ask. Lots of the time the add won't tell where it came from but the dealer can tell you.

Generally I found that current model year vehicles with around 10K miles were one of two things, service loaners or corporate demo's.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: ddombrowski
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
You should be able to get a relatively new Chrysler corporate Durango, these are employee vehicles, well optioned, and typically low mileage for fair bit less than sticker on a new one, FWIW.

My wife loved the Durango too, that's how we ended up with one, LOL!

Interesting - how do I find these? I did a search for 2014+ CPO durangos within 100 miles and found 0.


Find a dealer you trust. Ask the sales manager about one. He or she will be able to source you one and provide you a list of the ones available. We looked at a ton of them when we started shopping.

 

[Ramblejam]

Originally Posted By: ddombrowski
So we're between the Durango, Tahoe, and Expedition.


They're all great vehicles. Expedition is in another class though for interior space; the other two offer nothing significant in that department over the Pilot, which you find cramped.

"Durango’s heftiness is partially attributable to its size, as the Dodge has a longer wheelbase and a greater length than either the Honda or the Mazda. Despite its larger footprint, the Dodge’s rear-drive layout isn’t quite as space-efficient as the Pilot (which has more passenger volume), and the interior feels less airy and spacious than the Honda’s. And our test Durango’s all-black cabin did nothing to help it feel any roomier.

Still, the Dodge’s second- and third-row seats are comfortable even for adults, with the back row’s elevated “theater” seating position helping to avoid the knees-in-your-chest feeling prevalent among many three-row SUVs. The seats fold and tumble easily, too, and our only real complaint with the rear-seat setup is that the second-row bench doesn’t slide."

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-dodge-durango-v-6-awd-tested-reviews

 

[CKN]

Do't get the nine speed transmission in the Pilot. The "lower models" have the six speed-

http://blog.caranddriver.com/zf-recalls-nine-speed-automatic-for-random-drops-into-neutral/


One of the car mags actually had the transmission fail in their long term test on the Pilot and the nine speed transmission.

 

[gofast182]

It seems like you're avoiding the new Pilot but, in reality, the Durango isn't much bigger and there are other benefits to a Honda. As CKN said, look at the 6 speed if you can. I think most of the issues with the 9AT are worked out but it's still got some quirks due to its engineering.