List of PAO Grp IV oils

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Does having the edit button removed help the moderator(s) here?? Anyone care to chime in on that? Is there an alert given to moderators every time we edit and do normal edit-free posting???????



As has been pointed out many times, the edit feature is broken and may or may not be fixable without upgrading the forum software to a newer version. I believe the admins are considering the upgrade.

I highly doubt anyone is notified when a user edits a post.
 
Somewhere on this site I have a long post about Royal Purple being a Group IV (PAO) based oil. I have communicated several times with David Canitz, Tech Services Manager with Royal Purple and he says it's Group IV and their racing oils contain Group IV & Group V. He said they do not use any Group III in their products.

If you want to contact him, his email is:

[email protected]
 
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RP is definitely a group IV.




When I spoke with RP at SEMA they shucked and jived about the Group IV question and any other sort of technical question. I got the impression that the RP guys would think anyone at BITOG was wacko for being interested in oil.

Synerlec is super secret stuff that only 2 or 3 people are said to know about.

The most I got out of them was that RP contained perhaps some mix of Group IV or other 'synthetics' and mineral oil to dissolve additives.

If RP wanted to get me interested in their product they failed miserably...they were smug and condescending.

Redline's booth was very low key and friendly and they answered my questions without any tap dancing or sneers.

Mobil 1 and Castrol Syntec had great booths and very savvy reps who read the scripted lines beautifully...I couldn't learn a thing talking to these guys.
 
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"You have to find just the right amount of the various additives - friction modifiers, anti-wear agents, detergents and dispersants - all of this stuff the chemical engineers are playing with to get just the right mix for that particular application," explains Joe Gibbs Racing Oil's Lake Speed, Jr. "We have been playing around with our mix for some time and the oil we race with today is not the same thing we ran 6 years ago. We've perfected the recipe since then, and now we run a 5W20. But there are still some NASCAR NEXTEL Cup teams that run 15W50 motor oil because that's what they've always run."

Base oils are an important ingredient in motor oil but what sets one oil apart from another is the additives.

According to Royal Purple's Martin, oil really doesn't become what it is until you add the additives.

"All of the benefits are in the additives," says Martin. "Even in terms of racing oils most oil companies purchase additive packages. There are only a handful of additive suppliers globally. So in many cases the oils are basically the same with the only differences being the marketing. We actually manufacture our own additives. We aren't a refinery so we buy our base oil but that's the flour in the cake. The two major characteristics of our additives is the film strength, which is the load carrying characteristics of the oil not just the wear, and the oxidation resistance."




http://www.automotiverebuilder.com/ar/eb60652.htm

The first paragraph is exactly why I don't add anything to the oils I use.

RP puts a heavy emphasis on additives.

RL plays up the Base oil.

...the others both.
 
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Mobil.....give me my case of PAO and i'm happy
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how can it be meaningless and without merit?
the oil corporations spend billions developing, testing and hyping their oils with much sales emphasis on base oil quality and advantages
they spend millions on legal fees depending their base oil a nd formulation patents and copyrights
all on little old us, the oil consumer
will Mobil have to use a small s in Synthetic now? or do they get to use the BIG #@$%!.

there's gold in them thar oil pans, boys but it doesn't show up on a VOA or any lab testing

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this is a meaningless topic its all been discussed here many times


 
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