List of PAO Grp IV oils

[pbm]

Originally Posted by Scuder
Originally Posted by 4WD
Think this is the one before the Shell GTL plant changed the formula … and Ultra was the better version


This is the one to which I was referring. A couple of versions earlier than the one you posted. 5W-50 only at the time. If I'm reading the date code properly, this was packaged in 1994.


Maybe Performax was 5w50 only when it first came out but it added 5w30 and 10w30 shortly thereafter. I still have a few quarts of both (SH rated from 1994). Quaker State had a 5w50 from the same era...before they merged with Pennzoil...Herb Baum was the CEO. PS: Performax did use an Oronite (Chevron) additive package but I don't believe they ever "owned a piece of Chevron".....Also, some complain about resurrecting old threads...but I enjoy reading them and have no issue with people adding to them.

 

[buster]

hahahah looking back at my old comments. Yikes.

RDY4WAR makes great points. So much has changed since then.

 

[Scuder]

Originally Posted by pbm
Originally Posted by Scuder
Originally Posted by 4WD
Think this is the one before the Shell GTL plant changed the formula … and Ultra was the better version


This is the one to which I was referring. A couple of versions earlier than the one you posted. 5W-50 only at the time. If I'm reading the date code properly, this was packaged in 1994.


Maybe Performax was 5w50 only when it first came out but it added 5w30 and 10w30 shortly thereafter. I still have a few quarts of both (SH rated from 1994). Quaker State had a 5w50 from the same era...before they merged with Pennzoil...Herb Baum was the CEO. PS: Performax did use an Oronite (Chevron) additive package but I don't believe they ever "owned a piece of Chevron".....Also, some complain about resurrecting old threads...but I enjoy reading them and have no issue with people adding to them.

You're correct. The 5w30 and 10w30 Performax came along soon after the 5W-50. Before the merger, I only casually knew a couple of the QS reps and truck drivers, who I'd bump into in the field. One, who was the senior man for them in the area, offered me a job. I declined, which was a lucky move, because they shortly after reduced employees drastically in my area, closing their distribution facility. After the merger, we ended up working together, and some became good friends. Twenty years after he offered me the job, I drove the same fella home when he turned in his company car upon retiring.
Pennzoil did own somewhere just under 10% of Chevron. They took about $2 billion of the Texaco settlement, and bought shares of Chevron. This was shortly after receiving the money, and after lawsuits and such they ended up exchanging about half of the shares for a Chevron held company that owned significant oil reserves. As far as Pennzoil was concerned, reserves were what the whole Pennzoil-Getty-Texaco mess was all about in the first place. I don't know what happened to the rest of the Chevron shares. Actually, as I remember that whole deal was pretty contentious. Likely the Oronite additive purchase was just business as usual.
I'm with you. If someone resurrects an old thread, and it becomes relevant, it's fine with me.

 

[pbm]

Scuder: I do remember the Pennzoil/Texaco mess but not the particulars....I stand corrected on Pennzoil owning (shares of) Chevron....At any rate...that Performax was reputed to be an excellent PAO oil...

 

[spiderbypass]

This is a Redline safety Data Sheet from 2017, which identified two types of PAO base stocks used in their formulations. They mention Polyolesters POE basestock under environmental disposal noting it is biodegradable.

https://static.speedwaymotors.com/pdf/60710030-SDS.pdf

The newest Redline data sheet does not mention any base-stock combination so was glad ran across this one.

 

[Toh1]

By sds only 2% to 3% ester base or Poe oil ?

 

[M56959]

If the topic interests you please start a new one. Dredging up a 13+ year old topic helps no one.