I used it with the idea it would help out a certain vehicle with cold starts. I would use it with an oil change if I ever buy it again. I think it would work ok based on reviews.
Liqui Moly Ceratec
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This material has to mix with all the oil pumping/heating/sloshing around in your engine, I follow the directions - shake it up and dump it in.
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Do you rinse out the bottle with motor oil 1 to 6 times like I do with the MoS2?
I also feel like it makes your oil look like your engine has a blown head gasket.
My engine makes a "rattle noise on start up" and I just hope it is not rattle bearings.
No...I shake it and pour it.
I would only run Ceratec in a daily driver vehicle...
I agree that in a daily it will mix thoroughly.
By the way.. a local AAP near me had Ceratec for like $27-28.... That's a darn good price on that. And not a sale price. A everyday price. Just a heads up for ya Tigeo.
I've been running it in my Wife's Dacia Logan with the Nissan/Renault 1.5DCi engine for quite some time. I'm confident I felt a difference in my the Dacia. However, when I run it in my 5 series I had at the time I didn't notice any difference at all.
My Wife's engine gets an oil change every 6 months (usually about 5,000miles), so putting Ceratec in twice a year doesn't break the bank (about £20/bottle here).
I'd like to run it in my currently daily driver, a '21 Vauxhall Insignia (Buick Regal) with a 1.5 3 cylinder diesel engine but as I change th eoil every 2 or 3 months (due to the mileage I do), it's just too expensive.
Back to the reason I started writing this... When I apply this product, I pour it in and then flush the bottle out several times with fresh engine oil to get as much out of the bottle as possible.
My Wife's engine gets an oil change every 6 months (usually about 5,000miles), so putting Ceratec in twice a year doesn't break the bank (about £20/bottle here).
I'd like to run it in my currently daily driver, a '21 Vauxhall Insignia (Buick Regal) with a 1.5 3 cylinder diesel engine but as I change th eoil every 2 or 3 months (due to the mileage I do), it's just too expensive.
Back to the reason I started writing this... When I apply this product, I pour it in and then flush the bottle out several times with fresh engine oil to get as much out of the bottle as possible.
I think he is pointing where it says it has moly in it.....
$25 from FCP Euro.
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I emailed Liqui Moly regarding Ceratec product and this is what they told me.
Ceratec shouldn't be used with every oil change. Ceratec is rated for 50.000km. They recommend it to be used like this:
-fresh oil change. Add Ceratec.
-every consecutive oil change until you hit those 50.000km to use MOS2 additive.
-never add Ceratec and MOS2 at the same time. Only one at a time. So first Ceratec. Then after every oil change until you hit 50.000km add MOS2. Repeat every 50.000km.
Hope this helps somebody.
Edit: This video is informative and the guy says the same:
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Sounds like a lot of work for no measureable benefit. For someone who allows their vehicles to sit for more than a week at a time the stuff collects at the bottom of the oil pan. There are pictures somewhere on the site showing this. I'd pass.
Totally not worth it for someone that isn't a daily driver.
Regarding Ceratec, for somebody driving their car 75-100km a day(like myself), it's not that bad. It is working and it does create a ceramic coating that is helping the engine. There are some videos online showing this.
MOS2 - haven't used it yet. Going to use it with my next oil change. Will keep you guys updated.
So what are the laboratory-verified benefits of this? You know, not marketing hype, but actual third-party scientific testing? Just wondering if there’s legit proof that it’s anything more than “I feelz good” and separating people from another $25. Lack of harm is not a benefit.
The main advantage of Ceratec (and MS02) is the solids in the oil. Once the oil is drained you loose that advantage.
I did try Mannol Ceramo Ester in my Insignia for a little bit which seems to be very similar to Ceratec at a much lower price point. Didn't notice too much of a difference really. Currently not running any additives in any of my vheicles.
I did try Mannol Ceramo Ester in my Insignia for a little bit which seems to be very similar to Ceratec at a much lower price point. Didn't notice too much of a difference really. Currently not running any additives in any of my vheicles.
Sorry I'm not buying into the "videos," I've seen enough pictures of it settled in the bottom of oil pans. In fact a very well respected member here and good friend posted some, shortly after starting his car and moving it to get it in the air to drop a leaking oil pan. So that indicated to me once the stuff falls out of suspension it can remain at the bottom of the oil pan. Having said that if you feel there are benefits in using the product, that's all that really matters.
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I mean, objectively, you aren't going to be able to "notice" any difference in wear performance or any other valuable metric. This requires extensive tear-down testing which is never performed when products like these are plugged.
A fully formulated oil shouldn't need any "helpers" added. If it does, buy a different fully formulated oil from a company that doesn't sell an "upgrade" separately. My two cents on the matter.
Sort-of agree. But I generally am one of these people who likes to try these things and see for myself.
I will say there was an improvement in NVH and general responsiveness in my Wifes Dacia. However, that has 100K+ on the clock. The other two cars I've tried it on were fairly new and I noticed nothing.
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FM's can have an impact on NVH, but that doesn't mean they are improving wear performance or any other valuable metric. Their volume is often limited by other parameters, such as deposit prevention, which one needs to consider. That's why oils are "fully formulated". Yes, there's some "only as much as needed" taken with constituents but only as much as needed to do what? If the optimum balance of wear and friction reduction happens at 200ppm and you dump Gandalf in there and bump it up to 700ppm, are you improving anything or just increasing the potential for deposit build-up?
I'm extremely wary of anything that claims to improve performance over an already premium blended product sold by a company that doesn't sell "additional performance" separately. The quintessential example is of course Lucas "Oil Saver", a blatant contradiction if one understands its constituents.
Ravenol doesn't sell "Super CIALIS Engine Enhancer", Castrol doesn't sell "Viagratron Engine Elevator" and Mobil doesn't sell "Mobil-Extenze BIG Performance". Most of the serious boutiques don't push the "Performance sold separately" angle either.
To each their own, but I just can't see the case for these products other than being profit centres. That's how folks like Lucas get their name on a stadium.
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That is correct for MoS2 per LM. Per LM, Ceratec is good for ~30K as the solid FM is drained but the chem FM remains so they recommend Ceratec followed by MoS2 after for the 30K. Again, just reiterating what LM's instructions are.
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