Letting A Car "Sit" As Opposed To "Running It" ?

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Is there any substantiated truth to this topic? That it's better for a vehicle to "run every day", than it is to sit for days on end? I've had two vehicles in the past, a Indy Pace Car Corvette, and a Buick Century that was literally driven very little by a, "Little Old Lady". Both developed leaks, (coolant in the Vette, and a cylinder head gasket in the Buick), after I purchased them and starting driving them on a regular basis.

I ask this because I just retired this past December, and we don't drive as much as we used to when I was working. We recently purchased a new 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 5.7 HEMI, that we don't drive very much. We bought it last April, and thus far it's only accumulated a total of 850 miles on it in the past 5 months. And most of that was just to start it and take it for a ride to warm it up, and circulate the fluids. Because I didn't want to "let it sit".

Is this really that necessary? How often is a vehicle required to be run, in order to maintain dependability, along with, "leak protection"? If there even is such a thing. I've heard all kinds of stories over the years about, "seals drying out", and that sort of thing. I live in Arizona, so my vehicles don't see extreme cold. I think cold poses more of a problem than how often it's run.

Back when I lived in Chicago, every leak I ever had in a vehicle happened in the dead of Winter. I think an engine that goes from extreme Winter cold, (as low as -10F), to 195F in just a few minutes, is harder on seals and gaskets than the desert climate I'm now faced with, because of such extreme expansion and contraction.

How long would you be comfortable with leaving a car sit on a regular basis? I often wonder how often these guys like Jay Leno, who own hundreds of expensive cars, allow each one to sit without running them up to operating temperature?
 
On a new car, I doubt it makes much difference. But an on an older car, I believe it doess. As things (particularly brakes) tend to get sticky if not used regularly. Plus tires can flat spot. Battery can do a slow drain. I have an 05 civic with 300k for my winter car, and I have to drive it about once a week the rest of the year or the brakes are noisy for a bit when I first drive it. I once let it sit for several months outside a couple of years ago, and it really played havoc with the braking system. I think the problem is worse if the car sits outside, and worse in the winter time.

New cars on dealer lots can sit for a long long time without being driven, so they obviously aren't concerned about it.
 
I'd start and drive the car for 20-30 minutes at least twice a month. You want to keep minimal gas in it and try to use it and refresh over time. A fuel stabilizer is typically required.

Collector and show cars are different type of beast - most are prepped specifically to not be run, and most have no gas in them as that is the most troublesome fluid to deal with long term. Some show and collector cars are destined to never run again.
 
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Disconnect the battery - let it sit. Drive it because you want to. Starting twice a month is a total waste of time and resources.
 
I've always had 2 vehicles, including now. My other vehicle is a 1991 Ford F-150, 5.0, that only has 150,000 mi. on it over the last 24 years I've owned it. That's only an average of 6,250 miles a year. About the longest it sits is 2 weeks, and I've never had an issue with it. I really don't need 2 vehicles at this point in my life. But it is in very good condition, and is garage kept. A truck always comes in handy when I go to the rifle range, etc. I have very little invested in it at this point, and it's cheap to keep on the road with license and insurance, etc., so I really can't see selling it. It's worth more to me than the paltry sum I would get by getting rid of it.

The little amount the battery discharges, is replenished by the alternator in just a few minutes after being started. Batteries don't concern me, as they are cheap and easy to replace. I'm more concerned about the engine, and or transmission developing any leaks from sitting over time. I'm just not sure if it's anything I should be worried about. I can't be the only retired guy who doesn't drive much day to day.
 
I try to drive my wife's stock '65 Mustang at least once a month. Keeps things designed to move moving some instead of just sitting. Usually starts and drives OK with that routine.

Vehicles I've encountered that haven't run for a couple of years typically need some fuel system work before they'll run acceptably.
 
Originally Posted By: cashmoney
You want to keep minimal gas in it and try to use it and refresh over time. A fuel stabilizer is typically required.


Originally Posted By: Brian Barnhart
Vehicles I've encountered that haven't run for a couple of years typically need some fuel system work before they'll run acceptably.


You both bring up a good point about fuel. I've never used a stabilizer. Typically, how long can fuel sit in a tank without becoming "stale"? My F-150 has 2 tanks which I alternate. I usually refill after the one I'm using gets to 1/2 tank, then switch. Thus far I've never had a fuel issue, so I must be doing something right. It's just now I'm driving even less than I was before.... Which wasn't much to begin with.

Out here the heater is used very little. So I've always run the heater a few minutes, even during the Summer every couple of weeks, just to circulate the coolant through it. I always drain and flush after every 2 years. I'm still running the original heater core after 24 years, and the same radiator for the last 18.
 
Originally Posted By: bigt61
Disconnect the battery - let it sit. Drive it because you want to. Starting twice a month is a total waste of time and resources.


This.

If we are talking long-term storage, just prep it for storage and leave it be.

If we're talking about a car that you need to drive, but isn't driven super frequently, I wouldn't do anything. Drive it when you need it, let it sit the rest of the time.
 
You can get a cigarette lighter solar panel for $20 that would do well in the Arizona sun. Low humidity would be good for brakes. Disconnecting the battery constantly can wear or break its terminals.
 
Running a car regularly (weekly at least) and running it LONG ENOUGH to reach full operating temperature, and putting significant load on the engine is obviously the best.

If you choose to let a car sit.... DO NOT just periodically start it. Let it sit until you can actually run it up to full operating temperature while DRIVING (not just idling) and putting load on everything. If you know its going to sit a very long time (I'd say 3 months or more) add fuel stabilizer and put it on jackstands (preferably under the suspension so the suspension doesn't hang loose) to keep the tires from flat-spotting, and put the battery on a smart charger or install the battery in another vehicle that's getting driven.
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino
You can get a cigarette lighter solar panel for $20 that would do well in the Arizona sun. Low humidity would be good for brakes. Disconnecting the battery constantly can wear or break its terminals.
You can buy a master battery disconnect switch which mounts on the + terminal.
 
Originally Posted By: cashmoney
You want to keep minimal gas in it and try to use it and refresh over time.

For long term storage I recommend keeping the tank full to minimize chemical breakdown associated with oxidation.
 
The fuel system is well sealed and so the fuel won't go bad or collect moisture for many month. The exhaust system is stainless and won't rot away. The intake tract is long and so moisture migration into the cylinders through open valves is slow and exceptionally so in your climate. Keep the battery topped off with a smart charger and you could come back to the vehicle in a year and not have any issues so long as rodents don't take up residence.
 
I have a 1997 GMC Sierra and it only sees 1000 miles a year. It sits for months sometimes. I keep the battery on a charger. It leaks no oil at all and burns zero oil as well. No coolant issues or any other problems with almost 2o years of this routine.
When I do drive it, it gets a workout and is fully heat cycled before being parked again. I never start it to move it or use it for a couple minutes. That builds condensation and is not good because you don't burn it off. The key is fully heating it up when you do drive it. Letting it sit for a few weeks or months does zero harm.
 
Originally Posted By: zzyzzx
Not driving the car is fine as long as you put it on a trickle charger.


I hope you mean a proper automatic battery maintainer.

If you keep enough pressure in the tires to prevent flat spotting and use a battery maintainer it would be fine to sit as long as you want. The only concern after that is the gas sitting.

Plenty of choices for battery maintainers. I have a really nice pro Logix one. Noco, battery tender and ctek are also top choices here.
 
Ponder this, if you purchased two brand new cars, parked one in the garage for five years without using it, but drove the other new car for 20K miles per year.

Now which of these two cars will be in better shape at the end of five years?
 
Originally Posted By: SeaJay
Ponder this, if you purchased two brand new cars, parked one in the garage for five years without using it, but drove the other new car for 20K miles per year.

Now which of these two cars will be in better shape at the end of five years?


Obviously the one not driven will be in better "shape" in terms of paint and interior condition, however the one that is driven will most likely be in better mechanical condition with fewer problems.
 
Originally Posted By: Patman
Originally Posted By: SeaJay
Ponder this, if you purchased two brand new cars, parked one in the garage for five years without using it, but drove the other new car for 20K miles per year.

Now which of these two cars will be in better shape at the end of five years?


Obviously the one not driven will be in better "shape" in terms of paint and interior condition, however the one that is driven will most likely be in better mechanical condition with fewer problems.


I doubt that. Take it to the extreme, put on 100k mile a year. Now in 5 years, car 1 has zero miles, car 2 has 1/2 million miles. Hey, I'll gladly take the car with zero miles. At most, install a new battery and fresh gas and I am good to go. The car with 1/2 million miles is basically junk.
 
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